Re:Chain of thought monitorability: A new and fragile opport...
by ACCount36 on Thursday July 17, 2025 @04:03AM
(#44590880)
LLMs are already capable of complex behavior. They are capable of goal-oriented behavior. And they are already capable of carrying out the staples of instrumental convergence - such as goal guarding or instrumental self-preservation.
We also keep training LLMs to work with greater autonomy, on longer timescales, and tackle more complex goals.
Whether LLMs are "actually thinking" or have "volition" is pointless pseudo-philosophical bickering. What's real and measurable is that they are extremely complex and extremely capable - and both metric are expected to increase.
If you expect an advanced AI to pose the same risks as a faulty thermostat, you're delusional.
Nobody talks about a malfunctioning thermostat that makes a room too cold being "misaligned with human values" or a miscalibrated thermometer exhibiting "deception", even though both of those can carry very real risks to, or mislead, humans depending on what they control or relying on them being accurate. (Just ask the 737 MAX engineers about software taking improper actions based on faulty inputs -- the MAX's MCAS was not malicious, it was poorly-engineered.)
As to the last point, the burden of proof is not to prove a nonliving thing does not have mind or will -- it's the other way around. People without a programming background back in the day also regularly described ELIZA as "insightful" or "friendly" or other such anthropomorphic attributes, but nobody with even rudimentary knowledge of how it worked said "well, prove ELIZA isn't exhibiting free will".
Christopher Strachey's commentary on the ability of the computers of his day to do things like write simple "love letters" seems almost tailor-made for the current LLM hype:
"...with no explanation of the way in which they work, these programs can very easily give the impression that computers can 'think.' They are, of course, the most spectacular examples and ones which are easily understood by laymen. As a consequence they get much more publicity -- and generally very inaccurate publicity at that -- than perhaps they deserve."