Re:When Sigterm Does Nothing: A Postgres Mystery
by anarazel on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @03:08PM
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> Postgres codebase is a shining example of good engineering. They walk a very fine line between many drawbacks. Code is battle tested (and surprisingly readable). Not many people (or groups) can do much better - and if they think they can, they are probably going to learn a lesson in humility.
To be fair, we have/PG has plenty crud-y code... Some of it even written by yours truly :(. Including some of the code involved here.
But just saying "go back to the drawing board" without really understanding the problem isn't particularly useful.
Re:When Sigterm Does Nothing: A Postgres Mystery
by gpavanb on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @11:04PM
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I'd be happy to make the changes to the codebase but there's definitely scope for improvement. Putting a sleep to avoid repeated lock acquisition should have raised an eyebrow or two when it was implemented.
As mentioned, there should be a read-replica specific code that works using event listeners. Repurposing the primary's code is what causes the issue.
The following pseudocode would give a better picture on the next steps
// Read replica specific implementation
void StandbyWaitForTransactionCompletion(TransactionId xid) {
// Register to receive WAL notifications about this transaction RegisterForWALNotification(xid);
while (TransactionIdIsInProgress(xid)) {
// Wait for WAL record indicating transaction completion
WaitForWALEvent();
CHECK_FOR_INTERRUPTS();
// Process any incoming WAL records
ProcessIncomingWAL();
}
UnregisterForWALNotification(xid);
}
Right?
Armchair software engineers are so incredibly annoying.
Postgres codebase is a shining example of good engineering. They walk a very fine line between many drawbacks. Code is battle tested (and surprisingly readable). Not many people (or groups) can do much better - and if they think they can, they are probably going to learn a lesson in humility.