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Re:Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything... by ffsm8 on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @12:16PM (#44572732)
To begin with, this would be a non issue if HN just introduced something like user provided tags and users can vote for/against (to circumvent abuse)

Then the people wanting to filter "x" could just do it via simple grease monkey scripts or if HN natively supported it.

Sure, it wouldn't be perfect, but neither does it have to be.

Re:Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything... by photonthug on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @01:49PM (#44573909)
Most platforms don't grow this feature because they can benefit from redirecting user energy into places that the platform is choosing. Or some vocal minority of the user base benefits from redirecting the platform to a place of their choosing.

Similar to nest usurpation with eusocial insects, this is by definition parasitism when the energy-redirection is unwanted or unavoidable.

In the specific case of AI it's way worse than the usual suspects where everyone is effected and so everyone has to have some opinion (looking at you politics). Because even some rant about how much you hate AI is directly feeding it at least 3 ways: first there's the raw data, then there's the free-QA aspect, then there's the free-advertisement aspect when others speak up to disagree with your rant. So yeah, even people who like some of the content sometimes quickly start to feel hijacked.

Re:Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything... by Kiro on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @06:19PM (#44576460)
No. HN is good as it is and I find it disrespectful when newcomers are demanding changes like this. There's a good reason the forum has stayed the same for almost 20 years.
Re:Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything... by pxc on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @07:05PM (#44576853)
Topic tags wouldn't kill HN.
Re:Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything... by ivape on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @09:26PM (#44577788)
I don’t want the visual clutter.
Re:Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything... by andybak on Wednesday July 16, 2025 @05:08AM (#44580213)
greasemonkey / custom css
Re:Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything... by pxc on Wednesday July 16, 2025 @07:51AM (#44581176)
If the main purpose of topic tags is to allow filtering and aggregation, the tags don't need to be that visible/prominent in the first place.

I'm not saying this is the answer either, because I don't know if it's a great fit for HN, but managing and verifying such tags would fit well into somethingkme the ol' the moderation and Meta-moderation systems from Slashdot.

(Using LLMs to generate initial topic tags once per article instead of having independent implementations burn up compute over it dynamically also seems like a way more reasonable way to use them toward this end.)

Re:Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything... by ethbr1 on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @09:08PM (#44577694)
> There's a good reason the forum has stayed the same for almost 20 years.

You mean like when vote changing was added?

Re:Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything... by bookofjoe on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @09:38PM (#44577845)
1. I joined in 2016. I guess it all depends on what the cutoff is for "newcomers." I suppose you could call anyone who signed on after 2007 a newcomer.

2. "demanding?" I wrote:

>Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"I would very much like to enjoy HN the way I did years ago, as a place where I'd discover things that I never otherwise would have come across. The increasing AI/LLM domination of the site has made it much less appealing to me.

Re:Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything... by NaOH on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @11:08PM (#44578303)
>The increasing AI/LLM domination of the site has made it much less appealing to me.

Since you say this, I'm curious why you've also submitted about a dozen AI/LLM or adjacent articles in just the last two weeks. One was even a few hours before posting this Ask HN. That makes me think I'm not understanding something about your thinking.

Re:Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything... by bookofjoe on Wednesday July 16, 2025 @07:05AM (#44580852)
You make sense. In my ideal world there would be HNxAI and HN. I'd submit to both, and also regularly frequent each.
Re:Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything... by c23gooey on Wednesday July 16, 2025 @12:07AM (#44578577)
The UI might be the same but there's clearly been a lot of work done on the backend of the site in that time

edit to add: Don't gatekeep by using the pejorative "newcomers". Unless you're PG there will always be someone who has been around here longer than you

Re:Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything... by morgoths_bane on Monday July 21, 2025 @01:39AM (#44632100)
Honestly as a newcomer I prefer the fact that it has remained the same, when one looks at the current state of the web this is quite a wonderful refuge.
Re:Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything... by DeusExMachina on Monday July 21, 2025 @11:49AM (#44636629)
I would like to be able to filter topics I don't care about. My acocunt is older than yours so I guess my opinion holds more weight according to your metric.
Re:Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything... by kamaal on Wednesday July 16, 2025 @07:38AM (#44581073)
>>To begin with, this would be a non issue if HN just introduced something like user provided tags and users can vote for/against (to circumvent abuse)

HN's power is its simplicity. We don't need any of those features.

This is one of those rare old internet places that still has no feature clutter, ads and other distracting and irritating UI elements.

Sometimes something works fine and it doesn't need to be changed.