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Re:Cognition (Devin AI) to Acquire Windsurf by hugs on Monday July 14, 2025 @05:47PM (#44565719)
They are tools I want/need for my business (like creating software libraries for various things). My $10K number is how much I would have paid a contractor in the past to code it for me.
Re:Cognition (Devin AI) to Acquire Windsurf by lelanthran on Monday July 14, 2025 @11:12PM (#44567536)
> I'm easily getting $10K/month of value from my Anthropic subscription. (Rough estimate of how much I would have paid someone else to create the things I've (co)created with Claude Code so far.)

I know it's hard to place a value on how much a utility saves a business, but honestly this math is like the piracy math and we didn't buy it back then either.

Some teenager downloading 20k songs does not mean that they saved $20k[1], nor does it mean that the record labels lost $20k.

In your case, the relevant question is "how much did your revenue increase by after you started 10x your utility code?"

[1] Assuming the songs are sold on the market for $1 each.

Re:Cognition (Devin AI) to Acquire Windsurf by bananapub on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @08:47AM (#44570577)
that seems like a silly way to think about it.

OP wanted a thing. in the past, they've been OK paying $10k for similar things. now they're paying $200/month + a bunch of their time wrangling it and they're also OK with that.

seems reasonable to consider that "$10k of value" in very rough terms which is of course how all value is measured.

Re:Cognition (Devin AI) to Acquire Windsurf by lelanthran on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @10:40AM (#44571632)
> OP wanted a thing. in the past, they've been OK paying $10k for similar things.

Okay, then their costs should have come down similarly, no? OP said they were a business and that these weren't luxury hobby things but business needs. In which case, it must reflect on the bottom line.

I operate as a business myself (self-employed), and I can generally correlate purchases with the bottom line almost immediately for some things (Jetbrains, VPSes for self-hosted git, etc) and correlate it with other things in the near future (certifications, conferences, etc).

The idea that "here is something I recently started paying a non-trivial amount for but it does not reflect on the bottom line" is a new and alien concept to me.

Re:Cognition (Devin AI) to Acquire Windsurf by arolihas on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @01:37PM (#44573776)
When people made studio ghibli versions of themselves for free, were they creating hundreds of dollars worth of value since that's how much it would've cost a freelancer to commission such a picture? I would say rather the value of the pictures themselves became very cheap.