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Re:Some arguments against a land value tax (2024) by DangitBobby on Saturday July 12, 2025 @11:06AM (#44542569)
All my homies like to let perfect be the enemy of the good.
Re:Some arguments against a land value tax (2024) by sokoloff on Saturday July 12, 2025 @02:31PM (#44543991)
Is forcing grandma out of her house economically the perfect or the good in this story?
Re:Some arguments against a land value tax (2024) by DangitBobby on Saturday July 12, 2025 @11:46PM (#44547311)
It would be the thing keeping a good system from being perfect, I believe. Are you not familiar with the idiom?
Re:Some arguments against a land value tax (2024) by pydry on Sunday July 13, 2025 @08:48AM (#44550055)
Currently renting retirees are forced out already if they dont pay their rent.

Can you confirm that you wish to see this practice completely banned (i.e. no payment of rent) to prove that you're not taking a two faced stance on this issue?

What we are talking about is different - a tax incentive to move to somebody who has benefitted from a large capital gain.

Re:Some arguments against a land value tax (2024) by sokoloff on Monday July 14, 2025 @06:54AM (#44558589)
I’m fine with (and in support of) market forces to let grandma decide that it’s worth selling her home; I’m not okay with using government mechanisms with no market reference points to price her out of it. (Raise everyone’s property tax rate and reference appraisals to market sales? Fine. Determine that her specific piece of land is worth $X despite no comparison of open-market land-only transactions? Not fine.)

From that, it’s fair to conclude that I’m ok with renters having to pay market rent, regardless of their age or matriarchal status.

Re:Some arguments against a land value tax (2024) by pydry on Monday July 14, 2025 @08:00AM (#44559107)
>I’m fine with (and in support of) market forces to let grandma decide that it’s worth selling her home

Ok. Sounds like you are in favor of market forces driving grandma on to the street when she rents but not in favor of market forces driving grandma to sell up and move to a smaller cheaper property.

Maybe the pearl clutching about poor grandmas was a little overstated.

>Determine that her specific piece of land is worth $X despite no comparison of open-market land-only transactions? Not fine.)

LVT is calculated and imputed using open market transactions. If unimproved property values all jump in an area thats coz the land value went up.

Re:Some arguments against a land value tax (2024) by sokoloff on Monday July 14, 2025 @08:31AM (#44559399)
I’m in favor of market forces in both cases.

Show me a way that LVT can applied referencing open market transactions for unimproved land in a developed area and I’m interested to learn more about it.

Grandma can decide to sell her house on the market if the property taxes get too high. That’s good. She shouldn’t be able to be targeted by the city for her land value alone increasing despite no or weak supporting comps.

LVT is theoretically good. My problems with it are practical ones.