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Re:Bad Actors Are Grooming LLMs to Produce Falsehoods by hamilyon2 on Saturday July 12, 2025 @05:31AM (#44540648)
I am questioning, how is this news? What about the other terabyte of text influenced by bias and opinion and human nature and clearly wrong, contradicts itself or in some other way very arguable.

Framing publishing falsehoods on internet as attempts to influence LLMs is true in same sense that inserts in a database attempts influence files on disk.

The real question is who authorized database access and how we believe the contents of table.

Re:Bad Actors Are Grooming LLMs to Produce Falsehoods by raincole on Saturday July 12, 2025 @06:05AM (#44540808)
The example in this article is particularly funny. Pravda was founded in 1912, predating the internet, and had been Soviet's propaganda machine for its whole existence.

One needs a PhD in mental gymnastics to frame Pravda spreading misinformation as an attempt to specifically groom LLMs.

Re:Bad Actors Are Grooming LLMs to Produce Falsehoods by fresh_broccoli on Saturday July 12, 2025 @07:37AM (#44541312)
This article isn't about that newspaper. It's about the "Pravda network", a group of fake news websites, that according to the report linked in the article[1] produced "20,273 articles per 48 hours, or more than 3.6 million articles per year".

Clearly there's no need for "PhD in mental gymnastics".

[1] - https://www.americansunlight.org/updates/new-report-russian-...

Re:Bad Actors Are Grooming LLMs to Produce Falsehoods by raincole on Saturday July 12, 2025 @09:00AM (#44541757)
I stand corrected. My comment above was dumb.
Re:Bad Actors Are Grooming LLMs to Produce Falsehoods by eviks on Saturday July 12, 2025 @10:25AM (#44542305)
> I am questioning, how is this news?

You couldn't have lies targeting LLMs before LLMs, so this is new.

> What about the other terabyte of text influenced by bias and opinion

That's a different group of issues that doesn't prevent focusing of something else