Re:Turkey bans Grok over Erdoğan insults
by monkeydreams on Thursday July 10, 2025 @10:14PM
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Nations holding the region of Turkey are historically very powerful. My guess is that historical forces are reasserting themselves and that we may could see a much more assertive Turkey going forward.
Re:Turkey bans Grok over Erdoğan insults
by capitainenemo on Thursday July 10, 2025 @10:25PM
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... due to controlling a key choke-point in land trade between europe and the middle-east and asia. That hardly applies now. The suez canal would be a better modern equivalent.
Re:Turkey bans Grok over Erdoğan insults
by monkeydreams on Saturday July 12, 2025 @08:23PM
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> That hardly applies now.
I respectfully disagree given the basic fragility of the Suez Canal system along with the fact that Egypt is not growing into a major world power on the back of their governance of this canal.
Re:Turkey bans Grok over Erdoğan insults
by capitainenemo on Saturday July 12, 2025 @11:12PM
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No, they aren't, and there are plenty of reasons for that, not in the least because the canal is very different from a major trade city. But then, land trade is not making a comeback either. So if you're arguing for something to restore the historic importance of Troy, Constantinople etc, you're going to have to find a factor besides historic inevitability.
That being put aside, despite flaunting acceptance and democracy as their foremost goal, EU leaders surely knew not compromising on Turkey's accession would stray them farther of the EU in every way possible. And if that helps with a potentially bigger migrant crisis, so much the better.