Re:US utilities plot big rise in electricity rates as data c...
by gregbot on Thursday July 10, 2025 @08:10PM
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Ive heard people claim that but the only example of decarbonizing to actually ever happen is France with nuclear and that was not particularly expensive (and happened 30 years ago)
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Re:US utilities plot big rise in electricity rates as data c...
by bryanlarsen on Thursday July 10, 2025 @08:38PM
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Wow, 3 wrong statements in one sentence!
- the carbon intensity of pretty much every country's grid has dropped dramatically in the last 25 years. First by replacing coal with natgas, then by adding renewables.
- nuclear cost France $2/W in 1982 dollars ($6.50 today). solar+batteries cost California $4/W in 2023 dollars.
- the late 70s was a lot more than 30 years ago. (I was born in the 70's, I wish I was still in my 30's).
Re:US utilities plot big rise in electricity rates as data c...
by gregbot on Friday July 11, 2025 @02:53PM
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You have quite a few wrong statements in your reply! The french nuclear fleet rolled out mostly in the 1980’s not the “late 70’s” but that’s unimportant. The main issue with your statement the “solar+batteries” doesnt include enough batteries to have reliable power. The amount of batteries installed in. California still depends on fossil fuels to meet demand on cloudy and windless weeks so its not deeply decarbonizing the way nuclear does