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Re:EU rules ask tech giants to publicly track how, when AI m... by rustc on Thursday July 10, 2025 @04:10PM (#44524980)
How would this apply to open-weight models? The creators of the models cannot know who is using the model and for what.
Re:EU rules ask tech giants to publicly track how, when AI m... by miohtama on Thursday July 10, 2025 @04:30PM (#44525225)
You ban open weight models and the problem is solved
Re:EU rules ask tech giants to publicly track how, when AI m... by Retric on Thursday July 10, 2025 @04:32PM (#44525237)
Users of the model could be legally required to take part in the tracking.
Re:EU rules ask tech giants to publicly track how, when AI m... by Lariscus on Thursday July 10, 2025 @04:36PM (#44525285)
Just the same? If you publish a model that doesn't follow these rules nobody in the EU could use that model in their business. You could publish unlicensed source code as well and nobody could really use it for anything business related either.
Re:EU rules ask tech giants to publicly track how, when AI m... by rustc on Thursday July 10, 2025 @04:46PM (#44525393)
> If you publish a model that doesn't follow these rules

The rules require tracking outputs, which open-weight models cannot do. So I'm wondering if open-weight models have separate rules or this effectively bans releasing such models.

Re:EU rules ask tech giants to publicly track how, when AI m... by Lariscus on Thursday July 10, 2025 @05:04PM (#44525600)
Of course they can. Lets assume you are using such a model in your product, this now makes tracking its output your responsibility. It is really no different from the way you would use an open source library.
Re:EU rules ask tech giants to publicly track how, when AI m... by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF on Thursday July 10, 2025 @04:59PM (#44525547)
That is confusing since closed-weight models (the models, not the applications using the models) also can't track outputs. It would be weird if the rules applied to the model and not the application because then it literally only applies to open-weight models since the closed-weight models are, by definition, never released to the public.

Trying to understand the rules but it doesn't seem to make a clear distinction between these things. I assume that they are intending the applications that use the models, not the models.

Re:EU rules ask tech giants to publicly track how, when AI m... by xigoi on Thursday July 10, 2025 @06:05PM (#44526175)
Why would it be the creators’ responsibility? It should be the one running the model.
Re:EU rules ask tech giants to publicly track how, when AI m... by rsynnott on Friday July 11, 2025 @08:52AM (#44531566)
The service provider (or whoever was _running_ the thing) would be liable, I'd assume, not the model creator.