Huawei cloned Qwen and DeepSeek models, claimed as own

Re:Huawei cloned Qwen and DeepSeek models, claimed as own by landl0rd on Sunday July 06, 2025 @02:12PM (#44482830)

The classic example here is subtle, harmless defects/anomalies built into computer chips. Half the stuff china's made is full of these because they're straight ripped from reverse engineering of TI or whomever's stuff.

Very funny that the chinese even do this to each other; equal-opportunity cheats.

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Re:Huawei cloned Qwen and DeepSeek models, claimed as own by throwaway74354 on Sunday July 06, 2025 @02:36PM (#44482989)

It's important part of the culture and is not considered cheating. IP protection laws legal precedents are not the universal truth.

This article on the topic is a good explainer, https://aeon.co/essays/why-in-china-and-japan-a-copy-is-just... , but it's a thoroughly studied phenomenon.

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Re:Huawei cloned Qwen and DeepSeek models, claimed as own by cadamsdotcom on Monday July 07, 2025 @02:58AM (#44487457)

Thanks for this read, it really opened my eyes to some things I thought were universal - what copying actually is.

More interestingly that article dives into the reasons why keeping “old stuff” around (instead of renewing it) is only a winning strategy while your society is “only” a few centuries old. The West will one day be old enough that it decides to renew its old stuff too, just like the eternally 20-year-old Japanese temple.

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