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Re:Eight dormant Satoshi-era Bitcoin wallets reactivated aft... by bbarnett on Saturday July 05, 2025 @03:24AM (#44470754)
Any team involved would have long ago spilled the beans.

Conspiracies are impossible to maintain, once more than one or two people are involved.

Re:Eight dormant Satoshi-era Bitcoin wallets reactivated aft... by kragen on Saturday July 05, 2025 @05:52AM (#44471476)
Except for the secrecy of Colossus, Crypto AG, the 9/11 hijackings, Bill Cosby drugging and raping dozens of women, Peter Thiel funding lawsuits against Gawker, the Manhattan Project, the CIA-funded coup against Mossadegh, Stuxnet, the Five Families, most of what the NSA does, the Stealth Bomber, and so on.

Almost all of those remained secret longer than the 17 years we're talking about here, and due to selection bias, I am forced to omit the much more successfully kept secrets, because I don't know about them yet.

Re:Eight dormant Satoshi-era Bitcoin wallets reactivated aft... by bbarnett on Saturday July 05, 2025 @01:24PM (#44474166)
The selection bias, is discounting the endless conspiracies exposed daily.

People go to jail, are caught out, fired, relationships break up, governments fall, because conspiracies of even a few people fall apart. It's a regular thing.

You're mentioning some things, of which some were known during the time. The FBI had reports of the 9/11 hijackers, Bill Cosby was known by many but the women were paid off with cash or jobs (until they rightfully went public), and things such as the CIA and the Manhattan project are laced with highly patriotic people, and the death penalty or life in jail, along with people sequestered and watched by immense security.

Secrets are very difficult to keep.

The things you think of were enormously unusual in that they were kept.

They were the exception to the rule.

Re:Eight dormant Satoshi-era Bitcoin wallets reactivated aft... by kragen on Saturday July 05, 2025 @04:15PM (#44475208)
Very plausibly the identity of Satoshi is already known to more people than Cosby's rapes or the 9/11 hijacking plans before everybody knew about them. And it's also very plausible that the people involved were either strongly idealistic, facing death penalties for disclosure (for example, if they work for the Mossad), or both.

Secrets are very difficult to keep, but much of modern society is built on institutions that are very good at keeping them: armies, intelligence agencies, and even companies with trade secrets.

So your initial position is much too extreme to be justifiable.

Re:Eight dormant Satoshi-era Bitcoin wallets reactivated aft... by bbarnett on Sunday July 06, 2025 @11:20AM (#44481491)
I agree with your weakened claim that secrets are very difficult to keep

I think the mindspace here is what I was taught. A shared secret is no longer that. That the more people which know, the more impossible it will be.

As humans, we must conceptualize different sides of the problem, differently. As a person attempting to maintain secrecy, the impossible nature must be kept in mind at all times.

This is doubly true with some personality types, which think everything is a game. I've often wondered if some people feel mental pain, when held to their word.

So framing is important.

But from the other side, one can point to exceptions to the rule.

Re:Eight dormant Satoshi-era Bitcoin wallets reactivated aft... by franktankbank on Saturday July 05, 2025 @11:43AM (#44473518)
This is the dumbest idea I ever hear smart people say.
Re:Eight dormant Satoshi-era Bitcoin wallets reactivated aft... by pyman on Monday July 07, 2025 @10:18PM (#44496395)
I can't say that to my student. What kind of teacher would I be? He might not have found out who Satoshi Nakamoto is, but he learned how to think, use research tools, ask good questions, and communicate the outcome of his investigation.

He got a straight A.