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Re:Tesla reports 14% decline in deliveries, marking second y... by jqpabc123 on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @10:55AM (#44444527)
If taxis get cheaper, people will use them in even more situations, like daily commutes. Why not?

Sure --- if roborides are cheap enough and safe enough, more people will use them.

The immediate question for Tesla and their investors --- can they really provide "safe" robo rides using their current approach?

This is far from being proven since Tesla is only rated as Level 2 autonomy which according to Tesla itself, requires constant supervision. Placing passengers and the public in danger with inadequate technology is a textbook legal definition of negligence.

The longer term question; assuming they solve FSD --- is can they make tons of money from cheap rides? Enough to justify their current outlandish stock price.

Re:Tesla reports 14% decline in deliveries, marking second y... by cosgrove on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @11:12AM (#44444734)
Can they really do it? Tesla is making steady progress and has reached a few new milestones recently.

They recently launched their Robotaxi service in Austin, and it seems to be as good as Waymo or better. https://youtu.be/RcaBZenrCCs

They also recently autonomously delivered a car to a customer’s apartment straight from the factory line. https://youtu.be/lRRtW16GalE

Re:Tesla reports 14% decline in deliveries, marking second y... by jqpabc123 on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @11:26AM (#44444907)
Still only classified as Level 2 autonomy --- which requires constant supervision. This is according to Tesla itself.

https://www.synopsys.com/blogs/chip-design/autonomous-drivin...

Re:Tesla reports 14% decline in deliveries, marking second y... by Hamuko on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @03:36PM (#44447912)
Tesla also backs that up with actions since all of the robotaxis are supervised by a dude in the front seat that can abort the drive if the level 2 self-driving goes bonkers.
Re:Tesla reports 14% decline in deliveries, marking second y... by jqpabc123 on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @04:37PM (#44448556)
Supervision wasn't part of the original fantasy/sales pitch and calls into question their stated value proposition for competing with Uber and Waymo.