Re:Don't use "click here" as link text – W3C
by snickerdoodle12 on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @10:06AM
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Yes, and it's an embarrassment and a failure to legislate the right thing.
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Re:Don't use "click here" as link text – W3C
by komali2 on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @10:24AM
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So either fix it by changing the legislation, or fix it by changing the FOSS software... or do the only thing you can actually do right now which is implement websites in a way that's most likely to consistently work well with existing a11y solutions.
Re:Don't use "click here" as link text – W3C
by snickerdoodle12 on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @10:37AM
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Yes sir, thank you sir, I will never complain about stupid laws again, sir.
Is this how you want these discussions to go?
Re:Don't use "click here" as link text – W3C
by komali2 on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @10:39AM
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> complain
I guess at some point this button gets a bit worn out and I start wondering what pushing the "do something about it" button will do.
Re:Don't use "click here" as link text – W3C
by snickerdoodle12 on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @11:20AM
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You can implement your websites with accessibility in mind while also acknowledging its ridiculous how every web developer has to spend time on that because screen readers are terrible, and responsibility somehow got shifted to every web developer ever instead of the handful of companies making screen readers.
Re:Don't use "click here" as link text – W3C
by komali2 on Thursday July 03, 2025 @03:48AM
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I don't loop within loops, I free memory after I allocate it, and I add aria tags to html elements. I don't really see the big deal, just seems like a normal part of the job.
Re:Don't use "click here" as link text – W3C
by snickerdoodle12 on Thursday July 03, 2025 @07:37AM
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If you just do stuff without reflecting on why it's necessary that's... odd. Two of these examples have actual reasons on why they're necessary, the third is because screenreaders are crap.
Re:Don't use "click here" as link text – W3C
by komali2 on Thursday July 03, 2025 @10:06AM
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I'm not trying to be difficult, but how is it any different than matching what an HTML parser (such as a web browser) expects by making sure you close your tags?
Re:Don't use "click here" as link text – W3C
by snickerdoodle12 on Thursday July 03, 2025 @12:39PM
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Excellent example because web browsers will render most documents just fine if you don't close your tags. Because they care about being compatible with websites that aren't perfect, and they consider it their job to render all websites that exist. Instead screen readers expect you to change your website instead of working with what's already there.
Re:Don't use "click here" as link text – W3C
by komali2 on Thursday July 03, 2025 @11:42PM
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And yet we close our tags anyway, so even if screen readers are better, we wouldn't change our behavior. So I still don't get it.
Re:Don't use "click here" as link text – W3C
by const_cast on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @07:37PM
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The ADA is very good legislation and something I'm very thankful for as someone who is completely able-bodied. The reality is private entities won't do jack shit unless you force their hand and threaten them. It sucks it's that way, but that's the reality we have to acknowledge.
And, I benefit greatly from accommodations around accessibility. Both in the physical world and online.
Re:Don't use "click here" as link text – W3C
by snickerdoodle12 on Thursday July 03, 2025 @12:43PM
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Great, so force the hand of the screen reader makers to do a better job, or force the makers of browsers to integrate them properly, instead of burdening everyone else by piling workaround upon workaround.