Huawei releases an open weight model trained on Huawei Ascend GPUs

Re:Huawei releases an open weight model trained on Huawei As... by yorwba on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @07:24AM (#44442378)

I see now, the problem is that you're confusing expenses and profit. If Huawei had spent a quadrillion dollars to make the same number of GPUs, that wouldn't be an incredible sanctions backfire (look at how much money they got!) it would be an incredible sanctions success (look at how much money they spent to get what would've been much cheaper otherwise!)

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Huawei releases an open weight model trained on Huawei As... by randomNumber7 on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @07:50AM (#44442567)

I was looking at it under the assumption that the goal of the sanctions is to keep China away from beeing able to compete in AI not how much they have to pay for it.

Also the money the spend on top is mostly domestic. They can build some more powerplants to run less efficient chips. They can pay their workers and their developers to build it.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Huawei releases an open weight model trained on Huawei As... by zmgsabst on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @09:10AM (#44443309)

“Compete” is an economics term.

Making it cost more is keeping them from being as competitive — which is the point of sanctions.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Huawei releases an open weight model trained on Huawei As... by joshuaissac on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @09:38AM (#44443595)

Their customers who would have bought Nvidia chips are instead giving money to Huawei even though they prefer Nvidia. With more money, they can deliver better tech faster. It is costing these customers more, but in return, they get domestic capability with better supply chain security, and a possibility that it can eventually become cheaper than imported chips. Meanwhile, Nvidia gets less money from those lost customers.

[ Parent | on HN ]