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Re:The new skill in AI is not prompting, it's context engine... by shakna on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @04:54AM (#44431950)
Engineering tends to mean "the application of scientific and mathematical principles to practical ends".

I'm not sure there's much scientific or mathematical about guessing how a non-deterministic system will behave.

Re:The new skill in AI is not prompting, it's context engine... by SonOfLilit on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @07:37AM (#44432868)
The moment you start building evaluation pipelines and running experiments to validate your ideas it stops being guessing
Re:The new skill in AI is not prompting, it's context engine... by simonw on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @08:30AM (#44433244)
Right: for me that's when "prompt engineering"/"context engineering" start to earn the "engineering" suffix: when people start being methodical and applying techniques like evals.
Re:The new skill in AI is not prompting, it's context engine... by passwordqwe on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @10:04AM (#44434036)
Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/397/ About if it's science or not, the difference is testing it through experiment.
Re:The new skill in AI is not prompting, it's context engine... by grugagag on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @09:55AM (#44433946)
It’s validated and filtered but isn’t it still guessing at the core? Should we call it validated guessing?
Re:The new skill in AI is not prompting, it's context engine... by groestl on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @01:49AM (#44440587)
I think a validated guess is exactly what a prediction is.
Re:The new skill in AI is not prompting, it's context engine... by shakna on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @08:14AM (#44442779)
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Re:The new skill in AI is not prompting, it's context engine... by ModernMech on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @11:49AM (#44435136)
You've heard of science versus pseudo-science? Well..

Engineering: "Will the bridge hold? Yes, here's the analysis, backed by solid science."

Pseudo-engineering: "Will the bridge hold? Probably. I'm not really sure; although I have validated the output of my Rube Goldberg machine, which is supposedly an expert in bridges, and it indicates the bridge will be fine. So we'll go with that."

"prompt engineer" or "context engineer" to me sounds a lot closer to "paranormal investigator" than anything else. Even "software engineer" seems like proper engineering in comparison.

Re:The new skill in AI is not prompting, it's context engine... by groestl on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @01:50AM (#44440598)
Engineering: "Will the bridge hold? Yes, with a confidence of 99.95%"
Re:The new skill in AI is not prompting, it's context engine... by groestl on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @01:45AM (#44440566)
Funny how you use a scientific term to discredit applied statistics. I've built useful non-deterministic systems many times and they had nothing to do with AI. Also, particle physics would like to have a word with you.
Re:The new skill in AI is not prompting, it's context engine... by shakna on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @08:11AM (#44442759)
Guessing, how a non-deterministic system would behave.

Statistics isn't guessing. But it is guessing when the confidence interval is unknowable and constantly shifting. We're not talking relativity, we're talking about throwing pancakes at a wall to tell if there's a person behind it.