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Re:The Consciousness Gradient: When Machines Begin to Wonder by recursivedoubts on Sunday June 29, 2025 @12:06PM (#44414153)
really, if you think about it, you have no way of knowing if I'm not just a figment of your imagination.

or, maybe, you are just a figment of mine.

if you think about it.

Re:The Consciousness Gradient: When Machines Begin to Wonder by RangerScience on Sunday June 29, 2025 @12:09PM (#44414174)
nah. there's a lag time in my imagination filling in deeper details (roughly: the more time I spend imagining an apple, the more detailed it gets) that isn't present when interrogating reality. Reality is immediately as detailed as I can examine.
Re:The Consciousness Gradient: When Machines Begin to Wonder by wongarsu on Sunday June 29, 2025 @12:21PM (#44414249)
That just shows they are dedicating more processing power to "reality" than to "imagination"
Re:The Consciousness Gradient: When Machines Begin to Wonder by wongarsu on Sunday June 29, 2025 @12:19PM (#44414242)
All you truly know is that right now you are having a thought. Which means some entity most exist that has that thought. Everything else could be a product of your imagination, or something the beings that put you into the matrix want you to think

Or as another possibly-previously-existing possibly-conscious entity put it succinctly: I think, therefore I am

Re:The Consciousness Gradient: When Machines Begin to Wonder by exe34 on Sunday June 29, 2025 @01:55PM (#44414979)
You have done some nice footwork by shifting the conversation to

> you are having a thought

But you're still begging the question:

> Which means some entity most exist that has that thought

Re:The Consciousness Gradient: When Machines Begin to Wonder by DangitBobby on Sunday June 29, 2025 @02:21PM (#44415168)
I'm not seeing the problem.
Re:The Consciousness Gradient: When Machines Begin to Wonder by otikik on Sunday June 29, 2025 @04:21PM (#44416091)
And you can’t even be sure about yourself, either. All your memories could be implanted, for all you know. This could be your first conscious thought, this instant. Welcome to the Universe.
Re:The Consciousness Gradient: When Machines Begin to Wonder by recursivedoubts on Sunday June 29, 2025 @10:52PM (#44418790)
man
Re:The Consciousness Gradient: When Machines Begin to Wonder by otikik on Monday June 30, 2025 @02:26AM (#44420087)
:)