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Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ... by amy214 on Sunday June 29, 2025 @10:29AM (#44413458)
Just to go off of this, I'm a Jewish lawyer in America and an Israel supporter

We do need to really consider the source of the information. War is often filled with propaganda and lies, that's just how it is, that's part of war, propaganda. I think we need to look at Israel's long history of humanitarianism, and look at Palenstine's history of terrorism, to get an idea as to who is right and who is wrong here. My belief if the article is a piece of fiction, a hit piece.

Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ... by sorcerer-mar on Sunday June 29, 2025 @11:22AM (#44413837)
Thank you for your unbiased opinion shedding objective light on this incident and reporting. You have brought forth excellent evidence for dismissing this evidence.

Anyway, some more history to consider: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2017-11-17/ty-article/.p...

Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ... by aisenik on Sunday June 29, 2025 @01:29PM (#44414786)
I'm as prone to it as the next tech-influenced millennial, but we really need to consider the legibility of deadpan sarcastic mockery in an environment where people are inclined to sincerely hold outrageous beliefs.

Credulity is boundless, even (especially) in this world of open information warfare. Messages that require side-channels and discrimination with intentionally limited information are guaranteed to be misperceived and likely to have harmful memetic impact.

Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ... by sorcerer-mar on Sunday June 29, 2025 @01:46PM (#44414911)
That's fair feedback! I struggled to tamp down on a snarkier response that read more like: "I am a direct beneficiary of one side of this debate. If we are to be intellectually honest then we need to be sure to cast as much skepticism as we can muster onto the other side."

Agreed though, earnestness is one of our most urgent shortages.

Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ... by jakelazaroff on Sunday June 29, 2025 @02:50PM (#44415377)
So because Israel has a "long history of humanitarianism", we can dismiss evidence of Israeli war crimes as fictitious hit jobs? And once we've dismissed all evidence of Israeli war crimes, we can conclude that Israel has a "long history of humanitarianism"? Rinse, repeat — do I have that right?

The source is one of the biggest Israeli newspapers, by the way.

Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ... by edanm on Monday June 30, 2025 @01:06AM (#44419619)
> The source is one of the biggest Israeli newspapers, by the way.

I think that's a bit misleading. Per Wikipedia, it has a ~5% readership, as opposed to the bigger papers that have a ~22% readership. It is one of the older and most established papers though, that is true.

Anecdotally, I don't think Haaretz is very widely read among the "average" populace, though I think it has a lot of cachet in intellectual (and of course Leftist) circles.

Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ... by int_19h on Sunday June 29, 2025 @03:21PM (#44415584)
Are you also considering Hamas' long history of humanitarianism? I mean, as a government, they do things like welfare...
Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ... by ashoeafoot on Sunday June 29, 2025 @09:12PM (#44418191)
Selling food they got for free to ghaza-strippers to finance endless genocidal war?
Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ... by itchyouch on Sunday June 29, 2025 @10:05PM (#44418491)
This rhetoric of “terrorists” is getting quite tiresome.

The world has been watching for over 2 years the atrocities occurring in Gaza and Israel and its people have has lost its credibility to its victimhood on the world stage.

This article is simply 1 extra reporting on a million of Israel’s offenses in the name of terrorism.