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Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ... by lo_zamoyski on Saturday June 28, 2025 @06:52PM (#44408828)
For the record, the firebombing of Dresden was indefensible.

I say this as someone whose family endured 6 years of Nazi German and Soviet crimes, including genocide, violence, rape, large scale looting and destruction of cultural heritage, and mass destruction of cities (85% of Warsaw alone was reduced to rubble, intentionally and systematically).

Why do I mention that? I mention that to underscore that just war is not utilitarian. You cannot justify Dresden or Hiroshima or Nagasaki. It doesn't mean you can't take strong measures, or that circumstances don't make a difference, only that the circumstances did not morally justify these acts. And it seems that the behavior of the Allies in Dresden and Hiroshima serve as precedent that is used to justify crimes like the leveling of Gaza and treating its civilians like cattle.

Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ... by coryrc on Saturday June 28, 2025 @09:55PM (#44409747)
We stopped dropping bombs on Germany after they surrendered. If you are militarily defeated, then surrender typically results in the bombs stop dropping... unless your catchphrase is "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be Arab" -- I probably wouldn't surrender to those guys or Russians.
Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ... by lo_zamoyski on Monday June 30, 2025 @10:43AM (#44423969)
The bombing of civilians was never justified in the first place!