Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ...
by klipt on Saturday June 28, 2025 @02:32PM
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It's interesting to compare that treatment to the Mizrahi Jews who fled persecution in Arab states after 1948 and many settled in Israel. They're not refugees anymore. The Arab states stole tons of property from Mizrahi Jews (adding up to multiple times the size of Israel) but nobody is demanding that the Arab states pay reparations to Mizrahi Jews as a condition for peace. Meanwhile those same Arab states radicalize their populace against Israel by calling Israelis "land thieves" - the hypocrisy is quite amazing considering many of those Israelis literally had their grandparents' land stolen by those same Arab states.
Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ...
by chipsrafferty on Saturday June 28, 2025 @06:13PM
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Maybe the Mizrahi Jews can get their property back if they return the land they stole?
Seriously though, if you look back far enough, all land is stolen. I think it's more prudent to focus on the present day.
Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ...
by ChadNauseam on Saturday June 28, 2025 @06:57PM
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That's not quite fair. The Mizrahi Jews the GP is referring to were kicked out of the country they were born in, and had nowhere else to go but Israel, the land for which was already "stolen" when the Mizrahi Jews got there. (Obviously settlements are ongoing so you can say that land theft is continuing to happen. If that's what you meant, ignore me.)
Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ...
by lazyasciiart on Saturday June 28, 2025 @09:14PM
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> nobody is demanding that the Arab states pay reparations to Mizrahi Jews as a condition for peace
Why not?
Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ...
by klipt on Thursday July 03, 2025 @01:50AM
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A general bias that Jews are supposed to "forgive and forget" losing 3rd of population in a genocide, losing land multiple times the size of Israel etc.
While much smaller tragedies are used to justify forever war by Hamas against Israel.
Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ...
by lazyasciiart on Thursday July 03, 2025 @10:37PM
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Well that seems a silly bias for Israelis to have.
In general, Arab states and Palestinian leadership argue that naturalizing refugees would undermine their right to return to their original homes. You can interpret this cynically: because many Arab states are not too friendly with Israel, having a massive class of refugees putting political pressure on them could be advantageous, and is probably one of the only ways to "defeat" Israel as a jewish state (because if all of those refugees had the right to live in Israel, jews might become a minority.) But it is true that removing refugee status without a just solution would erase Palestinian claims and rights under international law.