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Re:uBlock Origin Lite Beta for Safari iOS by gruez on Saturday June 21, 2025 @07:42PM (#44341556)
>and he spends a lot of time keeping it working in the face of YouTube tactics, etc.

Does he? Is he doing original research, or just copying whatever ublock origin/easylist puts out? After all, all the bypass methods are just javascript snippets that extensions inject into the page, so it's not like you have to spend much time porting to iOS or whatever.

Re:uBlock Origin Lite Beta for Safari iOS by MBCook on Saturday June 21, 2025 @07:43PM (#44341562)
You think that doesn’t require time? Doing user support? Keeping up with API changes, etc?
Re:uBlock Origin Lite Beta for Safari iOS by gruez on Saturday June 21, 2025 @08:32PM (#44341812)
I'm not claiming it requires 0 time, only that it's nowhere near the amount of time that would justify a $15/year price tag.
Re:uBlock Origin Lite Beta for Safari iOS by mynameisbob on Saturday June 21, 2025 @10:25PM (#44342782)
You’re assuming that the price for a product should be based on the cost to offer it. In most markets, price is a function of the value perceived by buyers and relative pricing of similar products. Cost doesn’t enter into the equation.
Re:uBlock Origin Lite Beta for Safari iOS by gruez on Sunday June 22, 2025 @10:28AM (#44347212)
I'm well aware of how markets work, but that doesn't make it less bonkers. Bottled water companies take municipal water, do some "filtering", and sell it for a 10x-100x markup. I'm sure the people buying the water thinks they're getting their money's worth, but that doesn't mean we can't point out how absurd it is, nor is " in most markets, price is a function of the value perceived by buyers and relative pricing of similar products" a satisfying counterargument to that.
Re:uBlock Origin Lite Beta for Safari iOS by hombre_fatal on Sunday June 22, 2025 @04:30PM (#44350036)
I don’t see what’s absurd about paying a buck for the convenience of bottled water when and where you want it.

Or paying $15 for a year of someone keeping a content blocker up to date.

Maybe you are completely desynchronized from what people find valuable.

That you start valuing software at $0 because someone is producing it for free is a sad part of open source.

Re:uBlock Origin Lite Beta for Safari iOS by selcuka on Saturday June 21, 2025 @11:07PM (#44343100)
Unless someone else makes an equivalent product and sell it for $14/year, and every user switches to the new product, this statement is moot. A product justifies its price tag as long as people are willing to buy it at that price.

Revenue optimisation is a different concern. Would they sell more if they priced it at $10? Maybe. Would the total revenue ($10 * number of users) be higher than now? Maybe not. There is a local maxima and it appears that they calculated this to be ~$15.

Re:uBlock Origin Lite Beta for Safari iOS by gruez on Sunday June 22, 2025 @10:29AM (#44347221)
>Unless someone else makes an equivalent product and sell it for $14/year, and every user switches to the new product, this statement is moot. A product justifies its price tag as long as people are willing to buy it at that price.

adguard is free and I don't think I've encountered an ad that it didn't block. There's also open source adblockers like ublock origin lite, and some other one that was mentioned earlier this year but I forgot the name of.

Re:uBlock Origin Lite Beta for Safari iOS by selcuka on Sunday June 22, 2025 @08:27PM (#44351406)
> adguard is free [...] open source adblockers like ublock origin lite [...] and some other one

Yet not "every user has switched to these free products". Apparently the consumers don't feel the same way as yourself, or they are not aware of those options (marketing costs, too). Hence (quoting myself):

> A product justifies its price tag as long as people are willing to buy it at that price.

I'm not a 1Blocker user, but 1Blocker definitely doesn't have to price match anyone else if their customers are happy to pay despite there are many free options.

Re:uBlock Origin Lite Beta for Safari iOS by bartvk on Sunday June 22, 2025 @02:28AM (#44344367)
How many developers do you think would work even a single hour for that price tag?
Re:uBlock Origin Lite Beta for Safari iOS by gruez on Sunday June 22, 2025 @10:31AM (#44347229)
I'm sure the app has at least 1000 paying subscribers? Take out Apple's 30% cut, and that's more than $10k a year.
Re:uBlock Origin Lite Beta for Safari iOS by bartvk on Sunday June 22, 2025 @12:34PM (#44348243)
I found that over the years, it's easy to look at someone's business and conclude they're making bank.
Re:uBlock Origin Lite Beta for Safari iOS by brookst on Sunday June 22, 2025 @11:00AM (#44347446)
How many hours a month do you think is needed to “justify” charging $1.25/month?

If your time has so little value, please do create an alternative and offer the same level of support and updates for a price that seems more fair to you. $0.50/month maybe?

Re:uBlock Origin Lite Beta for Safari iOS by gruez on Sunday June 22, 2025 @11:11AM (#44347544)
>If your time has so little value, please do create an alternative and offer the same level of support and updates for a price that seems more fair to you. $0.50/month maybe?

This thread is literally about someone providing a free alternative.