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Re:YouTube's new anti-adblock measures by Brian_K_White on Saturday June 21, 2025 @02:55AM (#44335217)
I pay for youtube too and it still completely sucks. I hate when people try this bs.

* I don't want to have to have an account and be logged in to it.

* I pay for youtube but I don't always get to use my account. Other people's houses and devices exist. Other people's accounts exist even on my own device.

* I pay for youtube and still have to get all the baked in ads.

* I pay for youtube and have a wonderful black screen with no suggestions or discoverability because I have history turned off. (the feature does not depend on the history data, because for years this was never a problem, only a few years ago they suddenly decided to essentially penalize people who don't play ball like good little data cows). This even after I partially gave in and subscribed to a bunch of channels, which previously I never did.

* I pay for youtube and still have no control to disable shorts. (don't tell me about browser plugins. The world is far more varied than one browser on one pc. There is no youtube browser plugins for roku or the 100 other platforms that have youtube players. And even on a pc, you're not always on your own pc where you are free to hack on the browser.)

Here is the value you get from paying for youtube:

It's having only 8 of your fingernails pulled out instead of all 10.

Re:YouTube's new anti-adblock measures by raincole on Saturday June 21, 2025 @04:49AM (#44335853)
Sure. All you said is completely true. I have a good solution: don't use YouTube then.
Re:YouTube's new anti-adblock measures by Brian_K_White on Saturday June 21, 2025 @05:32AM (#44336061)
My comment was in response to : "You can also pay for YouTube. I do. It’s nice, not crazy expensive. No ads. Creators get paid. Everyone wins."

"then don't use youtube" is a non-sequitur to that.

Re:YouTube's new anti-adblock measures by Workaccount2 on Saturday June 21, 2025 @06:43AM (#44336401)
You can have zero finger nails pulled out if you don't watch YouTube...
Re:YouTube's new anti-adblock measures by Brian_K_White on Saturday June 21, 2025 @01:25PM (#44339175)
Still a non sequitur. Irrelevant. The comment claimed that paying for youtube makes it good. Not using youtube does not address the claim thst paying for it makes it good.
Re:YouTube's new anti-adblock measures by wkat4242 on Sunday June 22, 2025 @04:24AM (#44345053)
But there are still ads. You still get the ones the creators put in. That alone shouldn't happen, there should be a requirement for creators to upload sponsorfree vids that only premium subscribers can see. That would be a whole lot fairer.

After all the creators already get paid more for premium views.

Re:YouTube's new anti-adblock measures by PaulDavisThe1st on Saturday June 21, 2025 @11:11AM (#44338173)
What does "disable shorts" even mean?
Re:YouTube's new anti-adblock measures by detaro on Saturday June 21, 2025 @11:12AM (#44338180)
presumably "not being shown or suggested Shorts"?
Re:YouTube's new anti-adblock measures by Brian_K_White on Saturday June 21, 2025 @01:49PM (#44339359)
Yes. If I'm paying money, why can't I have what I want instead of what they want to shove at me? I thought paying for it made it nice? It's not like it would be either a technical or ui challenge.

Answer is paying does not make it nice. Paying does one thing, which is significant, but the experience ovarall still sucks, including even that one thing, ads, because you still get ads.

Re:YouTube's new anti-adblock measures by ayewo on Saturday June 21, 2025 @12:32PM (#44338813)
I think the gp meant YouTube Shorts [1], Google's answer to TikTok and Instagram Reels.

1: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/

Re:YouTube's new anti-adblock measures by b00ty4breakfast on Saturday June 21, 2025 @12:14PM (#44338663)
>...only a few years ago they suddenly decided to essentially penalize people who don't play ball like good little data cows...

I'm extremely skeptical that the company that makes most of it's money on the collection of data isn't still collecting data on your viewing habits (and other assorted account-related activities) just because you clicked a checkbox. I don't have a lot of great evidence to back this up but I would still see videos related to my viewing history in the after-video suggestion grid as recently as a few months ago ( before I realized I could zap it with Ublock)

Re:YouTube's new anti-adblock measures by Brian_K_White on Saturday June 21, 2025 @01:40PM (#44339281)
Absolutely there is no reason to believe they aren't still collecting data.

But the checkbox claims that they aren't logging, and so by clicking it they know your intention is not to cooperate in their fundamental business model.

It's just yet another little deniable dark pattern pressure, making the service suck a little when you don't do what they want.

And my outrage point is you get this dark pattern pressure even while you are actually paying money at the same time.

They make more money from the free users and ads than they do from subscriptions. They actually don't want paying users, they just kind of hsve to offer the option to keep those users pacified.

Re:YouTube's new anti-adblock measures by golergka on Saturday June 21, 2025 @03:42PM (#44340202)
> * I don't want to have to have an account and be logged in to it.

The whole point of YouTube is watching your subscriptions or recommendations based on your previous history. What is your use case if you don't even want to be logged into it?

Re:YouTube's new anti-adblock measures by georgebcrawford on Saturday June 21, 2025 @04:23PM (#44340478)
That's only partially true for me. Recommendations? Not at all.

Subscriptions less and less. I can think of two that I regularly watch, and even those I'll just binge their most recent 2-3 every couple of months.

For me it's Ctrl/CMD+L "y [thing I'm searching for]" Enter.

I've dabbled with tools like PinchFlat to archive/stream via Jellyfin but there's niggles I haven't tackled.