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Re:How OpenElections Uses LLMs by Normal_gaussian on Thursday June 19, 2025 @10:00PM (#44324099)
I'm not convinced.

I had Gemini convert a bunch of charity forms yesterday, and the deviation was significant and problematic. Rephrasing questions, inventing new questions, changing the emphasis; it might be performing a lot better for numerical data sets, but it's rare to have one without a meaningful textual component.

Re:How OpenElections Uses LLMs by timschmidt on Thursday June 19, 2025 @10:13PM (#44324157)
I've seen similar. I wonder if traditional organizational solutions, like those employed by the US Military or IBM, might be applicable. Redundancy is one of their tools for achieving reliability from unreliable parts. Instead of asking a single LLM to perform the task, ask 10 different LLMs to perform the same task 10 different times and count them like votes.
Re:How OpenElections Uses LLMs by latentpot on Thursday June 19, 2025 @10:42PM (#44324271)
Why complicate? One LLM works, another reflects and then a decision engine to review would be cheaper.
Re:How OpenElections Uses LLMs by Normal_gaussian on Sunday June 22, 2025 @06:12AM (#44345597)
Yeah, what I did to "solve" my issue was to use several models (4), then where there was any disagreement farm out to humans (2). 60% went to humans in the end.

I suspect if I'd done some corrective transformations before LLM scanning the success rate would have been higher, but the cost threshold of the project didn't warrant it.

Re:How OpenElections Uses LLMs by simonw on Thursday June 19, 2025 @10:28PM (#44324214)
Did you out as much work into it as Derek did? He spent a full hour with Gemini to process the longer document.
Re:How OpenElections Uses LLMs by 7moritz7 on Friday June 20, 2025 @04:05AM (#44325609)
Use 2.5 Pro on ai studio, not the gemini app
Re:How OpenElections Uses LLMs by dwillis on Friday June 20, 2025 @12:06PM (#44329078)
That's what I did.
Re:How OpenElections Uses LLMs by Normal_gaussian on Sunday June 22, 2025 @06:10AM (#44345588)
I did. I was scanning about 400 forms.
Re:How OpenElections Uses LLMs by nojito on Friday June 20, 2025 @01:06PM (#44329763)
Not sure I believe this.

I just quickly took a scanned document and the transcription looks good.

https://19january2021snapshot.epa.gov/sites/static/files/201...

https://g.co/gemini/share/d315b4047224

It even got the faded partial date stamp.

Re:How OpenElections Uses LLMs by Normal_gaussian on Sunday June 22, 2025 @06:09AM (#44345584)
Well bully for you accusing people of lying.

Thats one of the best scanned documents I've seen in years. Most scanning now is via phone.