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Re:How OpenElections Uses LLMs by benob on Thursday June 19, 2025 @03:29PM (#44321752)
I wonder how difficult it would be to bias a model so that it subtly corrupts election results when performing OCR.
Re:How OpenElections Uses LLMs by croemer on Thursday June 19, 2025 @03:46PM (#44321905)
Surely not hard but why?
Re:How OpenElections Uses LLMs by bilbo0s on Thursday June 19, 2025 @04:02PM (#44322040)
Easier to steal elections?

Don't have to bother with gerrymandering, or slick legal ways to arrest people for voting with the wrong documents. Or just good old fashioned intimidation, like making the polling place the police station or the ICE detention facility.

It's just a lot smoother process when you can simply write some software to manipulate the count.

Who's gonna check?

(No, seriously, Who's gonna check? Because you also need to layoff everyone in that department once you're in power.)

Re:How OpenElections Uses LLMs by simonw on Thursday June 19, 2025 @04:15PM (#44322155)
Corrupted OCR won't help you steal elections. The result counting is a different process, with well designed checks and safeguards.

The problem is that once the counts are done and have been reported a lot of places then print those results out on paper and then scan those papers into a PDF for anyone who asks for a copy!

Re:How OpenElections Uses LLMs by dwillis on Thursday June 19, 2025 @04:28PM (#44322250)
Many jurisdictions do risk-limiting audits using the original ballots, so futzing with the results wouldn't necessarily make that easier. Also, cast vote records are public in many states - those are records of each ballot cast. So people can check.
Re:How OpenElections Uses LLMs by philips on Thursday June 19, 2025 @04:30PM (#44322263)
I think you mean risk limiting, right?
Re:How OpenElections Uses LLMs by dwillis on Thursday June 19, 2025 @06:11PM (#44322993)
Yes, thanks! Fixed.
Re:How OpenElections Uses LLMs by bilbo0s on Thursday June 19, 2025 @05:29PM (#44322692)
Freudian Slip?
Re:How OpenElections Uses LLMs by philips on Thursday June 19, 2025 @04:30PM (#44322259)
You may consider reading about risk limiting audits. https://www.voting.works/audits
Re:How OpenElections Uses LLMs by grues-dinner on Friday June 20, 2025 @04:14AM (#44325645)
Sounds like an IOCCC challenge (but a much bigger haystack in which to hide the hack).