Yes I think they like to camouflage a very basic, garden variety hatred behind a cloak of supposed "virtue" but really they are just haters, plain and simple.

They accuse others of being nazis so that they themselves can be nazis.

Some interesting maps thankyou.

I think its a real interesting challenge, from a hacker perspective. How do you bootstrap a culture, that spirals into this minima, to recover and redevelop a interest in science and cultural development, without external intervention or enforcement. You only have the Robinson Crusoe elements you start out with and the technology and external culture that is not actively rejected by maximum religious fervor. If all other parts of humanity got stuck in this mindset, how could a open culture redevelop from this? Its really tough, i bow my head to the Houdini who pulls it off. Like - can you school a child, without school, only on youtube videos - or with some teacher LLM, downloaded to an illegal phone, smuggled in and only capable to run during the day on some battered solar.

People who think Israel is white probably never been there. Similar about apartheid, if you look at actual laws quoted as evidence of apartheid they don't come close to places like Saudi Arabia or Malaysia and honestly a bunch of other countries who have their own laws of return/restricted citizenship/political representation/cultural representation etc (even South Korea has it all)

But obviously this is not an excuse for Israel government supporting religious orthodox extremists and their settlements and aggression against Muslims in the area near Jordan. If you just take the situation there then yes it is basically a war zone.

If West Bank was considered part of Israel then I can see why it's apartheid but people who say it's apartheid also consider West Bank a separate country. You can't have apartheid in another country. Call it invasion/occupation or apartheid, but pick one? (Also yes this is whataboutism but what Russia is doing is orders of magnitude worse if invasions are considered.)

I think Netanyahu is not certain of the left/international part of his population. They would likely abandon israel if things got to bad (which they tend to do in that neighborhood)- he sort of uses the senseless hatred of the arabs worldwide as a sort of kadyrite barrier troop- if you cant go anywhere and be save- might as well stay in israel.

Absolutely this. I have a strong left leaning Irish family and believed the apartheid hoax for most of my life. It’s absolutely false. Arabs in Israel have a great life.

For me I have been to Israel end of covid before I heard apartheid accusations. I talked to Arabs there and honestly if I was offered to swap my Russian rights with rights of Arab in Israel I would go for it. I mean healthcare alone... When I looked up the allegations it appears that most alleged "apartheid" laws were common to other countries, so why double standard.

It sort of made sense if I thought just of West Bank. One reason, freedom of movement. I did not see from the inside but from what I read it is semi closed like a warzone with checkpoints and all. What's worse is that it is supposed to be closed for everybody but allegedly it is not equal and Israel military tolerates Jews but can be way overly strict to Muslims. Some people mad at Netanyahu for it.

But it's a weird limbo, people say it's apartheid and then the same people also say it's occupied and not really part of Israel. (Except for people who also say Israel shouldn't exist but I wouldn't listen to them, because then why a shitton of militant Muslim countries are allowed to exist right there but Israel isn't considering it is much more democratic and Jews were there as early if not earlier than Muslims)

FYI this user (nallar) mostly comments pro-Israel stuff, anti-vaccine stuff, pro-cryptocurrency stuff, etc and not much actual technical stuff. You know the type.

I comment on many topics, including distributed systems, node.js, Linux, low latency topics, software licensing, and yes science, history, the law and politics.

I don’t think I’m particularly pro-Israel, but since HN seems fixated with this particular conflict over others I certainly post in those submissions - just like everyone can see you do. This unnecessary personal attack is completely off topic (you’re responding to a post about me realising I believed in a myth about Israel) and easily proven false by looking at my post history - and also yours.

Your comment history doesn't lie - it shows you mostly comment about political things and always from a conservative perspective.

No it doesn’t. That’s why I referenced it, as well as your comment history (which includes you spreading a conspiracy theory about a dictatorship in the United States) in the comment you’re replying to.

I think your main issue seems to be that I don’t agree with you on Middle Eastern history, science, law and social matters.