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Re:Meta's Llama 3.1 can recall 42 percent of the first Harry... by lern_too_spel on Monday June 16, 2025 @03:28AM (#44287349)
If you distribute a zip file of the book, are you violating copyright, or is it the person who unzips it?
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Re:Meta's Llama 3.1 can recall 42 percent of the first Harry... by TeMPOraL on Monday June 16, 2025 @07:46AM (#44288679)
If you walk through the N-gram database with a copy of Harry Potter in hand and observe that for N=7, you can find any piece of it in the database with above-average frequency, does that mean N-gram database is violating copyright?
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Re:Meta's Llama 3.1 can recall 42 percent of the first Harry... by gamblor956 on Monday June 16, 2025 @12:02PM (#44290845)
If the database is sharing those pieces, it might be yes.

Copyright takes into account the use for such the copying is done. Commercial use will almost always be treated as not fair use, with limited exceptions.

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Re:Meta's Llama 3.1 can recall 42 percent of the first Harry... by TeMPOraL on Monday June 16, 2025 @12:32PM (#44291081)
I'd say no, because you can't reasonably access and order those pieces without already having the work at your side to use as a reference.
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Re:Meta's Llama 3.1 can recall 42 percent of the first Harry... by lern_too_spel on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @07:36PM (#44314168)
Not unless you can reproduce large portions of Harry Potter verbatim from the database. If the 7-grams are taken only from Harry Potter, that is very likely.
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Re:Meta's Llama 3.1 can recall 42 percent of the first Harry... by gamblor956 on Monday June 16, 2025 @12:00PM (#44290838)
You are.

Copyright is quite literally about the right to control the creation and distribution of copies.

The creation of the unzipped file is not treated as a separate copy so the recipient would not be violating copyright just by unzipping the file you provided.

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