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Re:Seven replies to the viral Apple reasoning paper – and wh... by serbuvlad on Sunday June 15, 2025 @03:42AM (#44281125)
But I do not think humans think like that by default.

When I spill a drink, I don't think "gravity". That's too slow.

And I don't think humans are particularly good at that kind of rational thinking.

Re:Seven replies to the viral Apple reasoning paper – and wh... by viccis on Sunday June 15, 2025 @04:00AM (#44281170)
>When I spill a drink, I don't think "gravity". That's too slow.

I think you do, you just don't need to notice it. If you spilled it in the International Space Station, you'd probably respond differently even if you didn't have to stop and contemplate the physics of the situation.

Re:Seven replies to the viral Apple reasoning paper – and wh... by ac29 on Sunday June 15, 2025 @12:20PM (#44283129)
I think they may have been referring to the fact that in the case of a spilled drink there's a shortcut from the sensory input to a motor output. Maybe you reach for the falling cup, maybe you back away to not get spilled on. These don't really require the conscious mind at all.
Re:Seven replies to the viral Apple reasoning paper – and wh... by viccis on Monday June 16, 2025 @03:01PM (#44292425)
I don't think that we need to be aware of the reasoning our minds are doing for it to constitute reasoning.