Re:Man Killed by Police After Spiraling into ChatGPT-Driven ...
by bravesoul2 on Saturday June 14, 2025 @08:15AM
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I doubt it's true yet but give it time.
Re:Man Killed by Police After Spiraling into ChatGPT-Driven ...
by tough on Saturday June 14, 2025 @08:17AM
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They're basically simplifying and romanticizing how RHLF works.
https://openai.com/index/sycophancy-in-gpt-4o/
https://www.anthropic.com/news/towards-understanding-sycopha...
Re:Man Killed by Police After Spiraling into ChatGPT-Driven ...
by lionkor on Saturday June 14, 2025 @08:17AM
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It's not "thinking" in any sense of the word. As any LLM about budget date ideas in your city, for example, and watch them come up with the most cookie-cutter, boring, cringe filled content you've ever seen. Like blog spam, but condensed into a hyper friendly summary that optimizes for maximum plausibility and minimum offensiveness.
It's an extreme stretch to suggest that there is any thinking involved.
Re:Man Killed by Police After Spiraling into ChatGPT-Driven ...
by khnorgaard on Saturday June 14, 2025 @08:21AM
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I find that more often than not the LLM will try to keep the conversation going instead of ending it.
Re:Man Killed by Police After Spiraling into ChatGPT-Driven ...
by jazzcomputer on Saturday June 14, 2025 @08:23AM
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I had a break from ChatGPT for a few months and got back onto it last week with some questions about game engines. I noticed that this time it's asking a lot of stuff when it looks like I'm coming to the end of my questions - like, "would you like me to go through with..." or "would you like me to help you with setting up..."
Previously it felt less this way but it was notable as it seemed to sense I was coming towards the end of my questions and wanted me to stick around.
Re:Man Killed by Police After Spiraling into ChatGPT-Driven ...
by luluthefirst on Saturday June 14, 2025 @09:06AM
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I think you are referring to the 'ask follow-up questions' toggle in the settings but it's not available on all devices to turn it off.
Re:Man Killed by Police After Spiraling into ChatGPT-Driven ...
by kirth_gersen on Saturday June 14, 2025 @10:52PM
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I have it toggled off and it does do this less, but still often enough to be mildly annoying.
Re:Man Killed by Police After Spiraling into ChatGPT-Driven ...
by donatj on Saturday June 14, 2025 @08:27AM
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From an economic standpoint probably not.
The individual queries cost real money. They want you to like the service and pay for it, but there's not much in it for OpenAI for you to use it obsessively beyond training data.
Re:Man Killed by Police After Spiraling into ChatGPT-Driven ...
by mike_hearn on Saturday June 14, 2025 @12:36PM
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Nah, it's just academic slop of the type every journalist has a crack-level addiction to. OpenAI's incentives are the exact opposite: users pay them a flat fee (or nothing) but OpenAI's cost scale per interaction. OpenAI make more money when people subscribe but don't talk to ChatGPT much, i.e. their incentives are the inverse of what Vasan is claiming here.
Ironically, the Stanford psychiatrist is hallucinating some statistically likely words whilst misinforming readers, perhaps in a way that will make them paranoid. It's turtles all the way down.
Is this actually true? Or is this just someone retelling what they’ve read about social media algorithms?