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Re:Self-Adapting Language Models by ivape on Friday June 13, 2025 @05:21PM (#44272382)
The most obvious blocker is compute. This just requires a shit ton more compute.
Re:Self-Adapting Language Models by johnsmith1840 on Friday June 13, 2025 @07:51PM (#44273248)
If it was pure compute we'd have simple examples. We can't do this even on the smallest of AI models.

There are tons of benchmarks around this you can easily run with 1 gpu.

It's compute only in the sense that the only way to do it is retrain a model from scratch at every step.

If you solve CL with a CNN you just created AGI.

Re:Self-Adapting Language Models by Davidzheng on Friday June 13, 2025 @08:55PM (#44273476)
yeah but training from scratch is a valid solution. And if we can't find easier solutions we should just try to make it work. Compute is the main advantage we have in silica vs biological computers so we might as well push it--like ideally soon we will have one large AI running on datacenter size computer solving really hard problems and it could easily be most of the compute (>95%) is on training step--which is where really AI excels tbh not inference techniques. Like even Alphaproof for example spends most of compute training on solving simpler problems--which btw is one instance of continual training/training at test time which is implemented.
Re:Self-Adapting Language Models by johnsmith1840 on Sunday June 15, 2025 @01:56PM (#44283836)
Retrain from stratch does technically solve it.

But it doesn't solve the time aspect.

You need to randomize data in order to train to best quality. In doing that the model has no idea t0 was before t1000. If you don't you get model collapse or heavy bias.

Some attempts at it but nothing crazy effective.

Re:Self-Adapting Language Models by zelphirkalt on Sunday June 15, 2025 @04:29AM (#44281241)
How do you make the mental jump from being able to train a model continuously to an "artificial general intelligence"?
Re:Self-Adapting Language Models by libraryofbabel on Friday June 13, 2025 @05:23PM (#44272397)
That tracks, but say cost was no object and you had as many H100s as you wanted. Would continuous learning actually work even then?
Re:Self-Adapting Language Models by IncreasePosts on Friday June 13, 2025 @06:01PM (#44272700)
Maybe part of the inference outputs could be the updates to make to the network