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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by JumpCrisscross on Thursday June 12, 2025 @08:31AM (#44256991)
> I'm just reciting what's been shown in videos

Of unknown provenance, with unknown visual artefacts, et cetera. Even if completely legit, with context and thus chain of causation obscured to the point that discerning ultimate and proximate causes is impossible.

Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by randomNumber7 on Thursday June 12, 2025 @11:35AM (#44258984)
Some people trust their own thinking to judge what they see.

We know it called mayday and then lost communication. It also stopped transmitting GPS data.

Looking at this it likely lost all electric power. The electric power comes from generators driven by the turbines.

If you lose both turbines you lose electricity. You also lose the hydraulic system so you can not get in the gear or change flaps.

Occam's razor checks out.

Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by newdee on Thursday June 12, 2025 @01:36PM (#44260417)
Don’t these Dreamliners also have back batteries?
Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by VBprogrammer on Thursday June 12, 2025 @03:28PM (#44262127)
Even on light GA aircraft the radio will run for an hour on the starter battery. This narrative doesn't sound realistic.
Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by wkat4242 on Thursday June 12, 2025 @09:34PM (#44264938)
Yes and many pilots being walkie talkies in GA as backup. Not sure if airline pilots do this though. And its kinda hard to root around for it and fiddle with it while trying to keep an unpowered jetliner in the air. They're more for emergencies where the radio is the only problem.

By the way, the age old rule is "Aviate, Navigate, Communicate" in that order of priority. So it could be they just had their hands full with the Aviate part.

Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by hanche on Thursday June 12, 2025 @06:20PM (#44263811)
They have a RAT (ram air turbine) that deploys automatically under specific conditions. It’s basically a turbine providing electric and hydraulic power. It was almost certainly deployed on the accident flight. It will only power the most critical equipment, though. Possibly, that does not include the ADS-B transmitter (which broadcasts position and related data).
Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by keepamovin on Thursday June 12, 2025 @10:37PM (#44265277)
This analysis is convincing about being able to hear the sound of the RAT from the crash video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbDJjgN7Xbo
Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by wkat4242 on Thursday June 12, 2025 @09:29PM (#44264914)
Yes, lithium ones, those were the ones that kept catching fire then the 787 was just out.

I guess they're just for the time until the RAT kicks in. Or to augment it.

Ps there's also the APU, a small turbine in the tail for generating electricity.

Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by SecretDreams on Thursday June 12, 2025 @09:12AM (#44257412)
Agreed, but it doesn't look like AI. Video(s) look real to my untrained eyes. Everyone is going to speculate regardless of the top level disclaimer. I rather just at least present what data is available as of now.

The city the incident took place in has a subreddit. Feel free to go take a look and judge for yourself. It's a bit NSFW at the moment.

Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by JumpCrisscross on Thursday June 12, 2025 @10:04AM (#44257965)
> present what data is available

It’s not. It’s one video of unknown quality and relevance, picked somewhat randomly out of all the other available videos and data, the most relevant of which aren’t publicly available.

> Feel free to go take a look and judge for yourself

It’s the usual emotional coping through baseless speculation. There are healthier ways to deal with uncertainty amidst tragedy.

Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by perching_aix on Thursday June 12, 2025 @09:11AM (#44257397)
I wish every news was held to this standard.
Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by potato3732842 on Thursday June 12, 2025 @10:20AM (#44258151)
The industry would be substantially smaller. This runs counter to the interested of every existing industry participant.
Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by perching_aix on Thursday June 12, 2025 @10:51AM (#44258506)
I agree. Not sure if there's any possible alternative worlds where the checks and balances shake out something better either sadly.