Re:Magistral — the first reasoning model by Mistral AI
by Saline9515 on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @04:40PM
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Everyone is "forfait cadre", which allow them to work with no practical time limit since they don't log their time spent at work.
https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F19261
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Re:Magistral — the first reasoning model by Mistral AI
by kgwgk on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @06:36PM
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It seems that 20% of employees in the private sector are "cadres" and half of them are on "forfait jours". That makes around 10% of the private sector employees working 218 days per year without the 48/44 weekly hour limits. It's more than I thought but I doubt that many of them work more than 10 hours per day. Whether that's "exceptional" or not is a matter of definition, of course.
Re:Magistral — the first reasoning model by Mistral AI
by psychoslave on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @02:51AM
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What do you mean with work more than 10h/day for intellectual work? You don't stop to think the moment you are away from the production machine. And the exact opposite can often happen: you go away from the computer/board/paper/office, make a walk trying to wander at something else as far as you can stear consciousness, and then the solutions/ideas land in your mind.
Re:Magistral — the first reasoning model by Mistral AI
by kgwgk on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @05:16AM
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You’re not wrong but what did the commenter above meant with “50 hours+/week”? Weeks have three times as many hours. Years also have many more than 218 days.
Anyway I found an official survey saying that 40% of them work more than 50 hours per week (but fewer weeks than regular employees) so I guess it’s not so rare (around one private sector employee in twenty).