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Re:Marines mobilized in response to LA protests by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @05:19AM (#44234442)
Doesn't post-pandemic Canada have the highest rate of legal immigration in years since government gives out immigration visas like candy? I can't see how this is good in a country that already has a stagnating economy and a housing crisis. You're eroding the bargaining power of local labor and increasing competition for housing in an already tight market.
Re:Marines mobilized in response to LA protests by cmrdporcupine on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @07:56AM (#44235685)
They were slow to let off the gas pedal after the labour shortages during COVID. There's been a massive swing in the other direction now.
Re:Marines mobilized in response to LA protests by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @08:36AM (#44236071)
What kind of labor shortages are we talking about? Isn't "muh labor shortage" just corporate propaganda for importing more cheap labor to drive down wages and increase rents?

Also, isn't it completely reckless to import a lot more people in a short timespan, without the necessary housing and infrastructure (doctors, nurses, teachers, etc) to support them in the first place?

Re:Marines mobilized in response to LA protests by cmrdporcupine on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @08:43AM (#44236131)
Small businesses were having a hard time staffing stores and the like. For a short period 2021 to maybe early 2023.

It's definitely not the case now. Unemployment is way up. Which I suspect is a combination of factors (slowing economy & tariffs) not just immigration.

But yes, Canadian governments work for employers, not workers. Just like any other advanced capitalist country. There is an expectation that there's a "natural" unemployment rate in this country around 6%, and they freak out if it goes much lower than that.

In general, when regular people are complaining about inflation they're complaining about their groceries. When you hear businesses and governments concerned about inflation .. they mean they're stressed out because minimum wage employees are demanding some basic respect that employers feel they shouldn't have to provide...

Re:Marines mobilized in response to LA protests by pseudo0 on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @08:48AM (#44236166)
There were no labor shortages during COVID... Low-wage employers just panicked because they were suddenly competing with generous temporary government benefits.

No wonder Canada's productivity is stagnant and on track for the lowest growth in the G7. Why invest in technology or productivity when you can just cry to the government for cheap, indentured labor?

Re:Marines mobilized in response to LA protests by swat535 on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @09:34AM (#44236632)
There has been a massive swing? They announced a small reduction and called it a day.
Re:Marines mobilized in response to LA protests by cmrdporcupine on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @12:21PM (#44238620)
The tightening of international student visas has actually been quite significant. Its effects on colleges and universities has been very drastic. And it has effects in the labour market as well.
Re:Marines mobilized in response to LA protests by cmrdporcupine on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @03:38PM (#44312725)
https://archive.is/awVp8#selection-2637.0-2640.0

Quarter with the slowest population growth since at least 2018, excepting one quarter in 2020.

Re:Marines mobilized in response to LA protests by InsideOutSanta on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @10:46AM (#44237471)
>I can't see how this is good in a country that already has a stagnating economy and a housing crisis

Increasing immigration is a good way to revitalize a stagnant economy. This is the great chasm between people's intuition of how national economies work and economists' understanding of how they work.

Re:Marines mobilized in response to LA protests by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @11:23AM (#44237987)
>Increasing immigration is a good way to revitalize a stagnant economy.

Then why is Canada's economy stagnating with all that emigration? When is that supposed economic boom coming?

The second issue is, if that economic boom is gonna trickle down to the Canadian working class or only to the top 1% of Canadian business and asset owning class while everyone else is left holding the bag?

Because we've been duped for decades with this uncontrolled immigration trickle down economic fallacy.

Re:Marines mobilized in response to LA protests by amanaplanacanal on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @01:24PM (#44239210)
Your ancestors were likely "uncontrolled" immigrants and so were mine. That's the way the Western hemisphere was settled. If it's so bad, how did the US and Canada get so rich?
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Re:Marines mobilized in response to LA protests by dttze on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @03:11PM (#44240299)
What resources? What are you even talking about?

We allow those in power to rape, murder, and pillage all the time. You don't care about that though, do you? Blame the migrants instead, easier than facing power.

Re:Marines mobilized in response to LA protests by rangestransform on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @08:43PM (#44243099)
Optimal policy is much different for a post industrial economy than an agrarian/frontier economy, I would rather have better standard of living than consistent ethics
Re:Marines mobilized in response to LA protests by amanaplanacanal on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @06:14PM (#44252412)
That's possibly true. Is there any evidence? Because there is a thread of racism and fear of the other built into our immigration policies since the beginning, and I don't see that's changed.
Re:Marines mobilized in response to LA protests by jjk7 on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @11:00AM (#44237643)
Well, it doesn't seem to be working.
Re:Marines mobilized in response to LA protests by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @02:28PM (#44239801)
It's working at making Canadian landlords rich. That's economic growth too.
Re:Marines mobilized in response to LA protests by mensetmanusman on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @09:59PM (#44243499)
This is true if you build enough houses to help the new arrivals, but the government failed to do this and has recently admitted as such. Because they didn’t, the housing crisis is about four times worse in Canada than in America, and that has completely defeated young Canadians and pressured them to not start families.