Re:Bruteforcing the phone number of any Google user
by growse on Monday June 09, 2025 @02:09PM
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> Since /64 is smallest network in IPv6
A /64 is not the smallest network in IPv6. Nothing stops you having a /112 or a /126 or whatever you like.
It is the only network size on which SLAAC works however, so it's a good choice for lan sizes.
Re:Bruteforcing the phone number of any Google user
by stackskipton on Monday June 09, 2025 @02:33PM
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I'm talking practical. I know you can reduce networks further BUT there is plenty of stuff that could break.
Re:Bruteforcing the phone number of any Google user
by growse on Monday June 09, 2025 @04:10PM
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What stuff?
Re:Bruteforcing the phone number of any Google user
by stackskipton on Monday June 09, 2025 @06:25PM
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Crappy network devices may not handle it properly, SLAAC obviously, I'm sure there are IPv6 tools that expect /64 for host, almost all blacklist setups for IPv6 assume /64.
This RFC has things that may not work properly not to use /64. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7421#section-4.2
Re:Bruteforcing the phone number of any Google user
by withinboredom on Monday June 09, 2025 @07:12PM
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The RFC only mentions issues with a shorter prefix, not a longer one. There should be no issues whatsoever with longer prefixes.
Re:Bruteforcing the phone number of any Google user
by johncolanduoni on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @04:09AM
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GCP for example hands out /96s to each VM, so this isn’t a theoretical or niche usecase.
Re:Bruteforcing the phone number of any Google user
by jsnell on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @04:16AM
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Yes, for GCP all the VMs with a /96 in the same /64 will be closely related: in the same project, same VPC network, same cloud region. So from the point of abuse logic it's appropriate to treat the whole /64 as a single unit. (That was the starting point of the thread, even though I realize that due to thread drift that's probably not what your comment was about.)
Since /64 is smallest network in IPv6 and because of that most providers hand out /64 when you ask for IPv6 public address because A) Most Rate Limiting uses /64 and B) IPv6 has so many IPs, no one cares.
Vultr has at least one /32 I was able to find (2001:19F0::/32) which if you cut that into /64 comes out ~4.2 Billion different networks or same amount of IPv4 address that exist.
ARIN will hand anyone who asks a /48 IPv6 subnet which 65,536 unique networks and getting larger prefix is not hard.