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Re:The time bomb in the tax code that's fueling mass tech la... by Retric on Friday June 06, 2025 @04:09PM (#44204520)
Money is fungible there’s zero difference between a tax break and handing money directly.
Re:The time bomb in the tax code that's fueling mass tech la... by jt2190 on Friday June 06, 2025 @04:27PM (#44204661)
Are you asserting that software and other labor-heavy startups should raise additional private capital so that they can pay taxes before they’ve established themselves in the marketplace? I’m not sure what you mean to say exactly.
Re:The time bomb in the tax code that's fueling mass tech la... by Retric on Friday June 06, 2025 @04:41PM (#44204760)
I’m saying investers should pay the full cost of R&D without assistance from taxpayers.

When the non R&D portion of the business is profitable they should start paying taxes. Assuming a company isn’t miss classifying operations as R&D it shouldn’t be a major issue.

Re:The time bomb in the tax code that's fueling mass tech la... by jt2190 on Friday June 06, 2025 @05:03PM (#44204971)
Thanks for clarifying.

This will of course discourage “riskier” startups and dampen innovation and give more power to profitable incumbents who will have less incentive to innovate. (Perhaps the result of this looks like Europe?)

Re:The time bomb in the tax code that's fueling mass tech la... by Retric on Friday June 06, 2025 @05:42PM (#44205274)
Risky startups with multiple years of R&D before revenue would be the least impacted.

You’re only paying taxes if the business is profitable ignoring investments like R&D spending.

Re:The time bomb in the tax code that's fueling mass tech la... by jt2190 on Friday June 06, 2025 @07:29PM (#44206079)
You seem extremely confused.

Section 174 specifically made those R&D costs “ignorable” from a tax standpoint. When it ended R&D costs could no longer be used to offset income.

Re:The time bomb in the tax code that's fueling mass tech la... by Retric on Friday June 06, 2025 @07:38PM (#44206130)
What specifically do you disagree with? That R&D is an investment? I mean outside of the tax code that’s what it means to do R&D.

As to my other point, the highest risk category of startup has zero customers for years they also have zero revenue, zero profit, and zero taxes to pay here. On the 5th year they can deduct R&D from each of those years making the net effect on them minimal vs a startup with profits on year 0.