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Re:Freight rail fueled a new luxury overnight train startup by mrgoldenbrown on Friday June 06, 2025 @10:38AM (#44201387)
>The big reason that passenger rail, even overnight, isn't as economical in north america...

That's a choice the country has made by subsidizing some kinds of transit more than others. Rail could be cheaper if we priced in externalities.

Re:Freight rail fueled a new luxury overnight train startup by chgs on Friday June 06, 2025 @10:48AM (#44201492)
Why would really be cheaper if externalities were priced in - I can see cars and planes being more expensive but how would rail be cheaper?
Re:Freight rail fueled a new luxury overnight train startup by Retric on Friday June 06, 2025 @07:20PM (#44206042)
Economies of scale.

If alternatives get more expensive more people use rail, and the cost per rail rider drops.

Re:Freight rail fueled a new luxury overnight train startup by chgs on Saturday June 07, 2025 @04:20AM (#44208245)
Or it just means nobody travels.
Re:Freight rail fueled a new luxury overnight train startup by ghaff on Saturday June 07, 2025 @07:04AM (#44208849)
People will travel one way or another. They'll just prioritize the factors that are important to them.
Re:Freight rail fueled a new luxury overnight train startup by potato3732842 on Saturday June 07, 2025 @01:04PM (#44210917)
Or the whole market shrinks because demand is fairly elastic.
Re:Freight rail fueled a new luxury overnight train startup by ghaff on Saturday June 07, 2025 @01:35PM (#44211148)
To some degree.

At least in the US, people will tend to drive--perhaps shorter distances--if long distance travel gets too expensive.

Re:Freight rail fueled a new luxury overnight train startup by palmfacehn on Saturday June 07, 2025 @05:24AM (#44208478)
Historically US passenger service was secondary to express mail service. Without express mail service provided by the same trains, passenger service became unprofitable.
Re:Freight rail fueled a new luxury overnight train startup by Retric on Saturday June 07, 2025 @09:38PM (#44213952)
The timeline roughly matches up with that argument, but mail and people transitioned for similar reasons.