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Re:My AI skeptic friends are all nuts by jagged-chisel on Monday June 02, 2025 @06:20PM (#44163780)
> … if it’s so great, stop telling us and show …

If you’re selling shovels to gold miners, you don’t need to demonstrate the shovel - you just need decent marketing to convince people there’s gold in them thar hills.

Re:My AI skeptic friends are all nuts by XorNot on Monday June 02, 2025 @06:25PM (#44163834)
This is actually a great metaphor and phrasing and I'm filing it away for later btw.
Re:My AI skeptic friends are all nuts by pera on Monday June 02, 2025 @08:00PM (#44164727)
It's a bit more than a metaphor :) during the California gold rush there was this guy named Sam Brannan who sold shovels and other tools to miners, and made a fortune from it (he is often referred to as California's first millionaire). He also had a newspaper at the time, the California Star, which as you can imagine was used to promote the gold rush:

> The excitement and enthusiasm of Gold Washing still continues—increases. (1848)

https://sfmuseum.org/hist6/star.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Brannan

Re:My AI skeptic friends are all nuts by tsimionescu on Monday June 02, 2025 @06:37PM (#44163973)
Note that it's a pretty common cliche, usually phrased something like "in a gold rush, the only people guaranteed to make money are the guys selling the shovels".
Re:My AI skeptic friends are all nuts by kwertyoowiyop on Monday June 02, 2025 @06:43PM (#44164031)
It’s actually an offbeat take on that common cliche.