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Re:EasyTier – P2P mesh VPN written in Rust using Tokio by ignoramous on Monday June 02, 2025 @07:44AM (#44157806)
Au contraire, it is usually developers of Chinese origin that build some of the widely used anti-censorship techniques & protocols.

Ironically, it was American companies that sold firewall tech to the CCP: https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/us-internet-providers-and-g...

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Re:EasyTier – P2P mesh VPN written in Rust using Tokio by ladyanita22 on Monday June 02, 2025 @07:55AM (#44157885)
I don't think the issue is about the developers being Chinese at all.

I think the problem comes mainly from the CCP having direct power to pressure the developers.

In any case, I have to say Chinese tech has surely evolved impressively.

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Re:EasyTier – P2P mesh VPN written in Rust using Tokio by conradev on Monday June 02, 2025 @09:22AM (#44158581)
Yeah – the shadowsocks developer is Chinese and the government went after them for working on an iOS VPN app back in the day on GitHub. That was a while ago, before the CCP had direct control over the App Store with law.
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Re:EasyTier – P2P mesh VPN written in Rust using Tokio by MallocVoidstar on Monday June 02, 2025 @08:42AM (#44158232)
Yes, but they don't host those projects inside China. This site is hosted inside China and has an ICP number.
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Re:EasyTier – P2P mesh VPN written in Rust using Tokio by VWWHFSfQ on Monday June 02, 2025 @10:17AM (#44159111)
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but isn't this project (and website) essentially illegal in China?
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Re:EasyTier – P2P mesh VPN written in Rust using Tokio by sureglymop on Monday June 02, 2025 @10:41AM (#44159333)
Why would hosting this website and creating this project be illegal in China?

They're not offering this as a SAAS or something...

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Re:EasyTier – P2P mesh VPN written in Rust using Tokio by nonethewiser on Monday June 02, 2025 @12:28PM (#44160483)
Distribution of software that subverts censorship laws.
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Re:EasyTier – P2P mesh VPN written in Rust using Tokio by MallocVoidstar on Monday June 02, 2025 @10:38AM (#44159303)
VPNs in their basic sense are legal in China, many large companies provide them/use them and so on. VPNs designed to bypass the Firewall without government approval are a subset of VPNs which the police do not like.
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Re:EasyTier – P2P mesh VPN written in Rust using Tokio by nonethewiser on Monday June 02, 2025 @12:30PM (#44160497)
OK so real VPNs are illegal. Then you have a subsets of VPNs that are regulated by the CCP and therefor legal. And useless for many use-cases.
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Re:EasyTier – P2P mesh VPN written in Rust using Tokio by adinisom on Monday June 02, 2025 @05:43PM (#44163418)
I would assume EasyTier devs use it to connect their devices within China so the great firewall isn't involved. Attempts to cross the firewall with EasyTier are detectable without things like Tor's pluggable censorship evasion transports.
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Re:EasyTier – P2P mesh VPN written in Rust using Tokio by nonethewiser on Monday June 02, 2025 @12:21PM (#44160400)
>China relied on two U.S. companies--Cisco Systems and Juniper Networks--to help carry out its network upgrade, known as "CN2," in 2004. This upgrade significantly increased China’s ability to monitor Internet usage. Cisco also sold several thousand routers (IHT) used to censor web content, and "firm’s engineers have helped set it to spot ’subversive’ key-words in messages."

What's ironic about that? Cisco sold them networking equipment and the CCP used it to censor.

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Re:EasyTier – P2P mesh VPN written in Rust using Tokio by immibis on Monday June 02, 2025 @12:45PM (#44160692)
Surely not publicly on government-licensed websites.
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