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Re:Show HN: AI Peer Reviewer – Multiagent System for Scienti... by yusina on Saturday May 31, 2025 @02:42PM (#44146176)
> a fair, merit-based AI reviewer

That's a dream which is unlikely to come true.

One reason being that the training data is not unbiased and it's very hard to make it less biased, let alone unbiased.

The other issue being that the AI companies behind the models are not interested in this. You can see the Grok saga playing out in plain sight, but the competitors are not much better. They patch a few things over, but don't solve it at the root. And they don't have incentives to do that.

Re:Show HN: AI Peer Reviewer – Multiagent System for Scienti... by rjakob on Saturday May 31, 2025 @02:59PM (#44146281)
Wouldn't that just require a robust, predefined ruleset we could all agree on? Let's make the dream come true!
Re:Show HN: AI Peer Reviewer – Multiagent System for Scienti... by yusina on Saturday May 31, 2025 @03:11PM (#44146351)
The rule set is simple: "Don't be biased." What does that mean? And that is the problem. It's hard (read: impossible) to define in technical, formal terms. That's because bias is at the root a social problem, not a technical one. Therefore you won't be able to solve it with technology. Just like poverty, world peace, racism.

The best you can hope for is to provide technical means to point out indicators of bias. But anything beyond that could, at worst, do more harm than good. ("The tool said this result is unbiased now! Keep your skepticism to yourself and let me publish!")

Re:Show HN: AI Peer Reviewer – Multiagent System for Scienti... by rjakob on Saturday May 31, 2025 @06:29PM (#44147380)
Then let's try to be the least biased and fully transparent (which should also help with bias)
Re:Show HN: AI Peer Reviewer – Multiagent System for Scienti... by tbrownaw on Saturday May 31, 2025 @09:01PM (#44147955)
> That's because bias is at the root a social problem, not a technical one.

Bias is systematic error.

Maybe your thermometer just always reads 5° high.

Maybe it reads high on sunny days and low on rainy days.

Bias is distinct from random error, say if it's an electronic thermometer with a loose wire.

For classification problems, there's also this impossibility result: https://www.marcellodibello.com/algorithmicfairness/handout/...

Re:Show HN: AI Peer Reviewer – Multiagent System for Scienti... by nathan_compton on Sunday June 01, 2025 @12:37PM (#44152091)
Not in the context of this conversation.