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Re:Precision Clock Mk IV by huslage on Saturday May 31, 2025 @01:43PM (#44145818)
No. You have to have access to the network to get the time. You get timing from the network “for free” but it won’t give you time.
Re:Precision Clock Mk IV by ianbicking on Saturday May 31, 2025 @02:03PM (#44145921)
I'm not exactly clear on the difference between "time" and "timing"...? Like an accurate incrementing time offset from some unknown start point?
Re:Precision Clock Mk IV by kvmet on Saturday May 31, 2025 @05:16PM (#44146965)
I assume they are referring to the channel timing? Cellular frequencies are segmented into time segments where each channel is allowed to be used by only some devices when it is their "turn" to transmit (this allows multiple phones to share the same frequency at the same time).
Re:Precision Clock Mk IV by lifthrasiir on Saturday May 31, 2025 @05:18PM (#44146974)
Timing is all about periodicity; if something beeps every second, you can measure intervals between two beeps but have no other information. It's often the case that timing is also synchronized to, say, second boundaries too, and most time sources would do this. Time would then be giving some indices to those beeps; the time source would beep and say that it was the N-th beep so that you can work the actual time out from N.
Re:Precision Clock Mk IV by TechDebtDevin on Saturday May 31, 2025 @01:50PM (#44145854)
How can you access this timing I run a little mobile proxy service for myself and a few others, could add some value there. Mobile networks are quite interesting.
Re:Precision Clock Mk IV by harshreality on Saturday May 31, 2025 @07:29PM (#44147647)
Is there any difference between a phone with no sim, and a phone with an old sim that's not linked to an active account?