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Re:Human coders are still better than LLMs by zahlman on Friday May 30, 2025 @04:19PM (#44139548)
> I personally believe that most of the doubt and cynicism is due to:

> 1) a pretty big collective identity crisis among software professionals, and

> 2) a suspicion that LLMs make it so that anyone who is good at articulating the problem precisely no longer needs a software engineer as a translation specialist from specs to code.

... But "articulating the problem precisely" is a huge part of what software engineers do, and there's a mountain of evidence that other people are not very good at that.

Re:Human coders are still better than LLMs by cushychicken on Friday May 30, 2025 @04:57PM (#44139807)
I have a mountain of professional experience that indicates many software engineers are not very good at it either.

Why would I add a subpar translation layer into the process of achieving my goals? There’s no inherent value in that.

Re:Human coders are still better than LLMs by zahlman on Friday May 30, 2025 @07:51PM (#44140826)
> Why would I add a subpar translation layer into the process of achieving my goals?

Because you don't have a choice. Your thoughts are not code.

Re:Human coders are still better than LLMs by cushychicken on Saturday May 31, 2025 @07:00AM (#44143433)
I'd still take ChatGPT as that translation layer over all but the best SWEs I've worked with.