Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

Re:Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than g... by listenallyall on Thursday May 29, 2025 @06:26PM (#44130983)

There are lots of things airlines could offer, that they don't. They are all obsessed with "loyalty", why not sell travelers multi-packs (6 flights over the next 12 months) or subscription-like plans? Why a 24-hour cancellation period even for flights booked months ahead... they could certainly extend that to allow for "low-risk" booking or even charging a small fee for the right to cancel up to, say, 3 months in advance. Auctioning off unsold seats. Selling itineraries with multi-day layovers in a 3rd city (basically adding a second destination to a vacation). Lots more with a bit of creativity.

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Re:Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than g... by phil21 on Thursday May 29, 2025 @07:47PM (#44131467)

Airlines do sell multi-packs with flexible rebooking. At least United and Delta did pre-covid, I haven’t had a use since then though.

With even moderate airline status rebooking/cancellations work more or less as described. I can’t recall the last time I haven’t been credited for a flight I ended up not taking, even I did a full on no-show.

Without status airlines sell refundable tickets with similar flexible rules, but I assume there is some adverse selection included in how they need to price those fares.

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Re:Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than g... by listenallyall on Friday May 30, 2025 @12:32AM (#44132883)

Yes most airlines have eliminated change fees, and rebooking isn't too difficult for business travelers. But that's not a refund, and people booking 6 to 12 months out tend to be families going on vacation or to a specific event. So if something changes, there isn't always something else to book, or at least not on that specific airline. Further, what you call "moderate" status - the lowest level - has been raised to require an enormous amount of spending on any one of the major airlines. And don't get me started with "you only need to spend 100k on their credit card..."

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Re:Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than g... by sfifs on Thursday May 29, 2025 @07:45PM (#44131456)

I've seen most of these in Asia. There's a lot of experiments going on.

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Re:Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than g... by listenallyall on Friday May 30, 2025 @12:11AM (#44132762)

Agreed. I participated in a points-based package that used to be offered by AirAsia. It was about $300 for 30 points. Flights between cities/countries were 1 to 3 points each, I probably got 3x my money's worth and still had about 4 or 5 points left over.

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Re:Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than g... by ghaff on Thursday May 29, 2025 @07:33PM (#44131404)

United these days has AFAIK pretty generous cancellation though it's in credit rather than outright refund.

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Re:Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than g... by listenallyall on Friday May 30, 2025 @12:17AM (#44132789)

Yes, most domestic US airlines have eliminated change fees. But as you point out, it's not possible to get your money back and it's not easy to make changes if you don't have an alternative trip in mind. Cancellability is valuable (see hotel bookings), and yet, people over-value the option - sometimes out of laziness, or they forgot, or they go with the original plan. I have difficulty believing airlines would lose very much if they offered full refundability up to about 3 or 4 months in advance, but they would probably get more bookings, most of which would likely not get cancelled.

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Re:Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than g... by ghaff on Friday May 30, 2025 @03:53AM (#44133956)

A lot depends on your travel habits. Credit on my usual airline (United) is pretty much a no-brainer within the year--I'll use it barring circumstances where losing some airline dollars are the least of my problems. Less so than it used to be but still.

For hotels, I still tend to pay the premium. I don't expect to cancel but, especially for an extended city stay, it can be a fair amount of money and the premium usually isn't that huge.

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Re:Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than g... by zeroonetwothree on Thursday May 29, 2025 @09:07PM (#44131844)

Alaska offers a subscription plan.

Realistically most frequent travelers go for business and they don’t care about cost that much so subscription packs wouldn’t be valuable. That’s why loyalty programs instead offer non monetary perks or those that accrue to the individual (points).

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Re:Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than g... by listenallyall on Friday May 30, 2025 @12:26AM (#44132828)

I dont really buy into the businesses don't care about cost - maybe for top execs - but companies are obsessed with expense reports and accounting for every penny, reducing per diems, limiting hotel cost ceilings, booking through a specific travel agency, etc. And of course most companies are working overtime in every other department to slash costs, why would travel be spared? Being able to buy flights in bulk and save money seems like it would be highly appealing to finance managers.

Of course, there are exceptions. Governments seem to be some of the worst violators, they really do not care about costs and in many cases they egregiously throw money around for 5 star luxury hotels, first class flights, etc.

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