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Re:US Trade Court Finds Trump Tariffs Illegal by rayiner on Thursday May 29, 2025 @12:22AM (#44123093)
> The acts give him the power to enact tariffs under certain conditions

Right, but the “condition” in the law is that the President first makes a “finding” that other countries have engaged in unfair treatment. The president only needs to convince the court the finding has been made. But whether a trade deficit results from trade barriers or something else is a decision that Congress has delegated to the President to make.

Re:US Trade Court Finds Trump Tariffs Illegal by KPGv2 on Thursday May 29, 2025 @12:52AM (#44123237)
> The president only needs to convince the court the finding has been made.

It's unclear to me if you think this is just a true statement of how Executive power works, or if you are arguing that the correct standard of review for a very restricted legislative delegation of authority is rational basis scrutiny.

Re:US Trade Court Finds Trump Tariffs Illegal by rayiner on Thursday May 29, 2025 @05:07AM (#44124278)
I don’t think even rational basis review applies here, because there’s no constitutional right or due process issue. Courts simply don’t get to supervise this particular arrangement on the substance.
Re:US Trade Court Finds Trump Tariffs Illegal by saghm on Thursday May 29, 2025 @01:27PM (#44128207)
The phrasing is "finds a fact" (emphasis mine), not "makes a finding". They need to convince the court that what they found is a fact, which means that it needs to actually reflect reality.
Re:US Trade Court Finds Trump Tariffs Illegal by rayiner on Thursday May 29, 2025 @09:34PM (#44131974)
That’s not how judicial review works. Even in the ordinary agency context when you’re talking about domestic issues rather than foreign policy, courts defer to fact findings of agencies.
Re:US Trade Court Finds Trump Tariffs Illegal by saghm on Friday May 30, 2025 @01:50PM (#44138480)
Whether or not the courts defer to agencies in different scenarios is not nearly as big a part of "how judicial review works" as it sounds like you're trying to claim. Literally last year the Supreme Court removed a major precedent to how deferential the courts need to be to federal agencies[1], so there's absolutely nothing inherent to judicial review that would require things to continue working the way you claim they do even if it was current precedent.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loper_Bright_Enterprises_v._Ra...