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Re:Some signs of AI model collapse begin to reveal themselves by 000ooo000 on Tuesday May 27, 2025 @09:35AM (#44106860)
What's the long term strategy WRT getting their grubby mitts on uncontaminated training data? Now that they've erased the incentives for publishing knowledge for free, i.e. the assumption your efforts will be rewarded with a few advertising dollars from visits, and they've established disincentives for publishing knowledge for free, i.e. having your site absolutely hammered by their disrespectful scrapers, what kind of internet are these slop merchants planning to subsist on? Someone gonna tell me reddit comments and Facebook posts?
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Re:Some signs of AI model collapse begin to reveal themselves by nh23423fefe on Tuesday May 27, 2025 @10:25AM (#44107327)
Why do you imagine a new equilibrium won't evolve? You've asserted a bunch of nonsense and ran with it and so of course you've come to a wrong conclusion.

The value of massively available internet text is the implicit world model learned by encoding the text into the weights. The altered distribution of data post 2025, is just another piece of the world model.

Why would children be able to learn and grow and become productive in the future, but somehow AI researchers are just going to drown and die and AI will flounder permanently.

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Re:Some signs of AI model collapse begin to reveal themselves by Joker_vD on Tuesday May 27, 2025 @10:50AM (#44107522)
Because empirical observations suggest that children regularly do learn and grow, while AI researches do drown and flounder, also quite regularly. I mean, this time it of course could be different (there is first time for anything, after all) but also could be the same.
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Re:Some signs of AI model collapse begin to reveal themselves by tomhow on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @09:32AM (#44115872)
> You've asserted a bunch of nonsense

Please omit swipes like this from comments on HN.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Re:Some signs of AI model collapse begin to reveal themselves by nh23423fefe on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @03:13PM (#44119611)
fair. ill try harder
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Re:Some signs of AI model collapse begin to reveal themselves by tomhow on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @08:35PM (#44121901)
Thanks!
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