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Re:At Amazon, Some Coders Say Their Jobs Have Begun to Resem... by aprilthird2021 on Monday May 26, 2025 @03:48AM (#44095016)
> there's another 50% who won't really get much done otherwise, either because they don't know what to do and aren't self-motivated or capable enough to figure it out (common) or because they're actively cheating you and barely working (less common)

Idk I barely ever work with people who are like this, and if people become like this, it's usually obvious to everyone that it's happened and they get a talking to in the office then get shown the door

Re:At Amazon, Some Coders Say Their Jobs Have Begun to Resem... by littlecranky67 on Monday May 26, 2025 @06:04AM (#44095803)
I assume you are in a country with fire-at-will policies. In Germany you have a job security, you can't just fire people without a reason. The difficulty is actually proving their incompetence or unwillingness to work. Thus in my experience (working a self-employed contractor in Germany) this group is far larger than 50%. Also one of my reasons why no good software comes out of germany (and this includes SAP, as long as you show me a single end-user that is happy with working with SAP software).
Re:At Amazon, Some Coders Say Their Jobs Have Begun to Resem... by goodpoint on Monday May 26, 2025 @08:58AM (#44097049)
The ability to deliver a 30 second summary in a daily standup has very little to do with real productivity.
Re:At Amazon, Some Coders Say Their Jobs Have Begun to Resem... by latency-guy2 on Monday May 26, 2025 @01:22PM (#44099481)
Why is incapability to make progress at work tasks not a valid reason for job dismissal in Germany? Unless I am misunderstanding something
Re:At Amazon, Some Coders Say Their Jobs Have Begun to Resem... by littlecranky67 on Monday May 26, 2025 @02:06PM (#44099952)
You have to prove it is the employees fault by intentionally not completing the task. Incompetence or incapability is not the employees fault, because well, you hired them and judged their ability - probably due to their education (it is a little more complex than that of course). As a concrete example, if you have a CS degree from the 80s and job as a COBOL programer and your employer decides to assign you to a new team doing react+js, the employee is still formally qualified. You couldn't fire him for incompetence, just because a 22 year old bootcamp graduate delivers 10x the results.
Re:At Amazon, Some Coders Say Their Jobs Have Begun to Resem... by aprilthird2021 on Monday May 26, 2025 @02:06PM (#44099943)
Yes I work in the US but my company has extreme time wasting practices designed to have engineers explain every thing they do and why it's worth it. I never found this helpful and find it causes more problems than it solves.
Re:At Amazon, Some Coders Say Their Jobs Have Begun to Resem... by dd_xplore on Thursday May 29, 2025 @03:20PM (#44129300)
Incompetent workers migrating to the US is a big issue.