Clojure: 1, Common Lisp: 0

Re:Clojure: 1, Common Lisp: 0 by Retric on Monday January 19, 2009 @11:19AM (#440578)

what can a I

Create a simple working installer for the major OS's that includes a useful IDE, Database connectivity to least one major database and a fully functional web server. Once this is working get some people to write a standard library for date / time functions, file IO, formatting output etc.

Never underestimate how difficult it is for a new user to setup a working environment.

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Re:Clojure: 1, Common Lisp: 0 by jimbokun on Monday January 19, 2009 @12:52PM (#440693)

For OS X, Ready Lisp is the closest I have seen to what you describe.

http://www.newartisans.com/blog/ready-lisp.html

It's Aquamacs combined with SBCL, some documentation, and some should-be-standard CL libraries. Double click and it immediately takes you into a REPL. Aquamacs recognizes most of the usual Mac key bindings, making the Emacs curve not quite so steep.

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Re:Clojure: 1, Common Lisp: 0 by mcxx on Monday January 19, 2009 @11:59AM (#440624)

The closest thing at the moment would probably be Lispbox (http://gigamonkeys.com/book/lispbox/) altough it's a bit outdated, so you'd be better with directly downloading SBCL (http://www.sbcl.org/platform-table.html). Use cl-build (http://common-lisp.net/project/clbuild/) for to ease library download. and install. I guess it's too complicated for a newcomer, but there's no easier way atm, sorry.

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Re:Clojure: 1, Common Lisp: 0 by Retric on Monday January 19, 2009 @12:06PM (#440634)

That's my point, you could fix this.

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Re:Clojure: 1, Common Lisp: 0 by mcxx on Monday January 19, 2009 @12:11PM (#440644)

I get that. I'll definitely consider it. It's on my list of open-source side projects.

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Re:Clojure: 1, Common Lisp: 0 by ramchip on Monday January 19, 2009 @05:01PM (#440963)

Lispbox is a good idea. Target Windows if you can. Setting up Clojure with Emacs on Windows involved a lot of steps and arcane stuff, but now there's a Clojure Box which makes things a lot more pleasant.

I've tried SBCL with the Eclipse plugin and it's been a huge PITA. IIRC, I couldn't get libraries to install when I finally gave up. It may have improved since, but I'm not sure. Of course the fact that many cool-sounding CL libraries had defunct websites and inaccessible CVS repos didn't exactly encourage me...

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Re:Clojure: 1, Common Lisp: 0 by narag on Tuesday January 20, 2009 @11:16AM (#441865)

"Create a simple working installer for the major OS's that includes a useful IDE, Database connectivity to least one major database and a fully functional web server..."

I'm just learning and my conclusion (by elimination :-)) is that for Windows the best is to use Emacs + SLIME + SBCL. There is an installation guide here: http://robert.zubek.net/blog/2008/04/09/sbcl-emacs-windows-v...

In the comments there are instructions to get ASDF working, that I haven't tried yet.

I've tried to avoid Emacs, but it seems impossible. Lisp in a Box has a lot of problems, ABLE has still too many bugs and Corman lacks GUI programming without which I can't justify the price. CUSP also has too many bugs. So I'm surrendering and looking at Emacs.

For the web server part, just use good old CGIs.

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