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Re:Magnus Carlsen forced into a draw by more than 143000 peo... by gcbill on Wednesday May 21, 2025 @02:49AM (#44048930)
Perhaps it is worth considering that this was Freestyle chess and not classical chess. Which means the traditional book moves with which chess engines are trained goes out of window. I am not saying Stockfish cant beat Magnus in Freestyle chess but it makes sense to believe that Chess engines are better at classical chess when compared to freestyle.

But then again, with 24 hour time to brute force every possible combination, I guess chess engines may be better at freestyle when compared to classical chess, due to the sheer amount of creativity and calculation involved.

Re:Magnus Carlsen forced into a draw by more than 143000 peo... by throwawayyy86 on Wednesday May 21, 2025 @05:48AM (#44049821)
It's actually the opposite. Humans fare much worse at freestyle chess because they don't have any opening theory and are unfamiliar with the patterns that arise from nonstandard opening positions. Engines don't care much about opening theory one way or another

Source: am rated 2000 fide (partly because I struggle with openings)

Re:Magnus Carlsen forced into a draw by more than 143000 peo... by Scarblac on Wednesday May 21, 2025 @10:18AM (#44051722)
Chess engines haven't needed book moves fed to them for a very long time now. Start up any modern engine and let it analyze, and it will only be considering strong theoretical main lines from the first second.

That said, they have been trained almost exclusively on games that started from the normal starting position. But then, so have humans.