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Re:Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called ... by alpaca128 on Tuesday May 20, 2025 @08:28PM (#44047236)
Gatekeeping means restricting power or opportunities. Is it gatekeeping when a skill can be learned for free, and on top is also optional? Is it also gatekeeping to forbid students from using ChatGPT for homework because it would force them to go through the hardship of earning an education?

I have seen what 99% of people are doing with this "clear and present value". Turns out when you give people a button to print dopamine they probably aren't going to create the next Mona Lisa, they're just going to press the button more. Even with AI, creating compelling art is still a skill that needs to be learned, and it's still hard. And why would they learn a skill when they just decided against learning a skill? Incentives matter, and here the incentives massively favor quantity over quality.

> Whether AI has worked well for you isn't just irrelevant

My point was that it's creatively restrictive, and that current models tend to actively steer away from creative outputs. But if you want to limit yourself to what corporations training the models and providing the cloud services deem acceptable, go ahead.

Re:Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called ... by Clamchop on Tuesday May 20, 2025 @08:50PM (#44047331)
I stated exactly what the enumeration of arguments that I know of are and which one is gatekeeping. (It's still the first one, devaluing or dismissing work out of hand if AI was involved, regardless of other merit.)
Re:Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called ... by hooverd on Wednesday May 21, 2025 @08:32AM (#44050789)
Good, it's a socially corrosive technology. Much like you might dismiss a quality product made with child labor.
Re:Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called ... by Clamchop on Wednesday May 21, 2025 @02:39PM (#44054699)
Terrible analogy that trivializes child abuse.
Re:Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called ... by Aurornis on Tuesday May 20, 2025 @09:48PM (#44047579)
> Gatekeeping means restricting power or opportunities.

Gatekeeping commonly means excluding others from a group, a label, or an identity. That’s what they’re referring to.