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Re:Tesla Regret Syndrome by cbeach on Tuesday May 20, 2025 @07:04AM (#44040112)
> after the double Sieg Heil

You mean "after the mainstream media spent weeks deliberately misconstruing a raised arm as a Nazi salute, while conveniently ignoring the raised arms of dozens of Democrat politicians and celebs"

Examples:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/everyone-is-a-n...

Re:Tesla Regret Syndrome by factual on Tuesday May 20, 2025 @07:45AM (#44040434)
Musk performed two fascist salutes at a political rally. He did it deliberately and he did it twice.

Watch the video from start to finish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smQNNo2a9xc

There are no such videos in the article you linked to. Find me video of the Democrat politicians doing the same thing as Musk. Since there were dozens of them it should be easy.

Re:Tesla Regret Syndrome by cbeach on Tuesday May 20, 2025 @08:39AM (#44040903)
It's because I watched the video I know this is not a fascist salute.

I'm probably wasting my time trying to appeal to people that have already made their mind up, but please, just observe what he's saying during the speech, and the words that form the context of him raising his arm. Then you will hopefully realise that you have been manipulated by the leftwing mainstream media.

Don't forget the media hate Musk because he is directly competing with them.

Re:Tesla Regret Syndrome by factual on Tuesday May 20, 2025 @09:24AM (#44041344)
Okay, so you have no videos. You only have misrepresented images and false claims about the dozens of Democrat politicians and celebrities performing fascist salutes like Musk.

You'll have to accept that this is who and what Musk is. It's who he wants to be.

Musk has done massive brand damage Tesla. Teslas are now called "fascist mobiles" and "swasticars".

There is no unreality you can cling to that will change that.

Re:Tesla Regret Syndrome by cbeach on Tuesday May 20, 2025 @11:55AM (#44043009)
> You only have misrepresented images and false claims about the dozens of Democrat politicians and celebrities performing fascist salutes like Musk.

Do you not see the irony in what you just admitted here? Do you not understand the point I was trying to make by sharing those images?

In case it's not clear and obvious, let me state it for you: I don't believe those Dems (or Musk) are Nazis. Anyone can freeze frame a video for the purposes of misrepresentation. That's my point.

> Musk has done massive brand damage Tesla. Teslas are now called "fascist mobiles" and "swasticars".

Yes. Because of the politically-motivated misinformation people are deliberately spreading about him.

Re:Tesla Regret Syndrome by owebmaster on Tuesday May 20, 2025 @02:30PM (#44044464)
Honest question: do you really think the richest man in the world would not know that his nazi-like salute ("my heart goes to you") would be (mis)represented as a nazi salute?
Re:Tesla Regret Syndrome by factual on Tuesday May 20, 2025 @04:22PM (#44045524)
I see. Now that you are unable to produce videos to back your false claims (because of course you can't), you're attempting to make the pivot to "lol, just kidding, bro!"

Musk has let you down, and it hurts, but you'll have to accept the reality of who and what he is. Unreality will never help you.

Re:Tesla Regret Syndrome by guywithahat on Tuesday May 20, 2025 @12:12PM (#44043222)
> Musk performed two fascist salutes at a political rally. He did it deliberately and he did it twice.

To say this means you consume misinformation on a regular basis. If you watch the whole video he's extending his heart to the crowd. Further the "double our H1B" guy obviously isn't a fascist, he shares no ideals or political interests with fascism.

Claiming all your political opponents are fascist/socialist/demons/etc is a low-IQ argument and not conducive to meaningful discussion.

Re:Tesla Regret Syndrome by factual on Tuesday May 20, 2025 @04:34PM (#44045634)
Calling two fascist salutes an "extension of his heart to the crowd" is as dishonest an argument as trying to call them "Roman salutes" or trying to claim that he didn't know what he was doing.

Musk knew exactly what he was doing. He enjoyed doing it. It's who he wants to be. It's who he is.

Re:Tesla Regret Syndrome by root_axis on Tuesday May 20, 2025 @02:11PM (#44044286)
It was not misconstrued. Static photos of people gently raising their hands in the air is not the same thing as Elon aggressively extending his arm in a stiff salute twice. At best, you could say he's not actually a Nazi and was just trolling, but Elon's gesture is absolutely a Nazi salute, Taylor swift waving to her fans is not.

Frankly, I'm not sure why people even defend it, Elon openly endorses Nazi commentary on twitter, the salute is just the cherry on top.