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Re:FCC Chair Brendan Carr is letting ISPs merge–as long as t... by BobaFloutist on Monday May 19, 2025 @07:09PM (#44035938)
If you believe human capabilities tend to follow a bell curve, and if you believe that minorities are statistically disadvantaged compared to their non-minority complement, that would seem to imply minorities are un(der)tapped as a market and as a labor pool. Which would suggest making a point to actively include them in your hiring and marketing funnel and at least slightly biasing those funnels in their favor would just be good business.
Re:FCC Chair Brendan Carr is letting ISPs merge–as long as t... by Enginerrrd on Monday May 19, 2025 @07:39PM (#44036171)
Your reasoning is totally sound up until the final clause.

The "correct" answer isn't biasing evaluation pipelines, it's ensuring you have proportional representation in the pool of applicants.

Re:FCC Chair Brendan Carr is letting ISPs merge–as long as t... by RHSeeger on Monday May 19, 2025 @11:39PM (#44037553)
> ensuring you have proportional representation in the pool of applicants

But you don't in most cases. And a lot of that is because minorities, in general, have a less access to opportunities. By lifting up minorities individually, the goal is to raise them up at a systematic level. And the end goal of _that_ is so that they can/do have proportional representation in the pool of applicants. At which point, the biased treatment to get them there will no longer be necessary.

Admittedly, it's debatable as to whether that approach will work; but I haven't seen any other viable options put forth.

Re:FCC Chair Brendan Carr is letting ISPs merge–as long as t... by BobaFloutist on Tuesday May 20, 2025 @12:08PM (#44043180)
By funnel I meant everything up to, but not including, the actual evaluation.

Personally, I believe in affirmative action, but it's become evident that it's incredibly unpopular, and the Supreme Court has rendered it actively illegal, so my personal opinion is moot and I know when to cede a losing battle.

What I was describing is literally the steps you would take if you wanted to ensure you have proportional representation in the pool of applicants.

Re:FCC Chair Brendan Carr is letting ISPs merge–as long as t... by Enginerrrd on Tuesday May 27, 2025 @12:21PM (#44108398)
That makes sense and sounds consistent with what I was saying. I guess it wasn't clear to me what you meant by "biasing" the funnel.

You obviously need to bias your recruitment efforts, and more than slightly if you want proportional representation of applicants, but I believe it's absolutely essential you do NOT bias evaluations, hiring, or promotion of applicants. To do so actively undermines minorities in my opinion by stripping away their credibility by default.