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Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by ryandrake on Monday May 19, 2025 @02:57PM (#44033452)
> Yeah I think this is something that people in countries like the US don't instinctively understand, or at least I didn't.

Guilty as charged. I have the American mentality due to being raised here, and I would be horrified to hire a housekeeper or servant. The "well, it's better than nothing" argument, while true, feels icky and exploitative. "Better than nothing" is a terrible bar and a sign of a broken society, and I personally just don't want to be part of continuing that brokenness. Totally understand if someone grew up in a different culture, they likely have a totally different view on it.

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by rglullis on Monday May 19, 2025 @04:22PM (#44034390)
Does it feel "icky and exploitative" to you to use Über/DoorDash/TaskRabbit?
Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by ryandrake on Monday May 19, 2025 @06:31PM (#44035653)
Kind of. I don't do food delivery at all, and only hire uber/lyft when all other options are exhausted, and when I do, I at least I feel sufficiently bad about it. I would definitely feel "icky" hiring a personal shopper or hiring a chauffer to drive me everywhere.

And yea, I know there are other less visible areas in every product and service value chain where people are exploited and yet I am part of society. I don't have an answer or solution to this that is politically feasible.

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by rglullis on Monday May 19, 2025 @08:55PM (#44036662)
> I would definitely feel "icky" hiring a personal shopper or hiring a chauffer to drive me everywhere.

Do you feel "icky" by going to a supermarket and having a cashier scanning your products? Do you feel "icky" by taking a taxi? How about by taking a public bus, train or plane?

Do you go to restaurants or bars? Do you feel "icky" about someone taking your order, cleaning up your table, pouring out drinks for you?

Do you have kids? Have you ever hired a babysitter? Do you feel "icky" about someone else being temporarily responsible for the well-being of your child?

> I know there are other less visible areas (...) where people are exploited and yet I am part of society. I don't have an answer or solution to this that is politically feasible.

I'm honestly more concerned about people who think that they should have "an answer to this" than all the exploitation that exists.

I can tell you what it's *not* the solution. Eliminating all sort of manual labor is *not* a solution. Eliminating manual labor will lead to even more isolation and atomized individuals. It will put us all in different bubbles and make us completely unable to relate to other people and it will make us even more susceptible to be defined by what we consume.

If you are part of a society, it will be better for everyone if you start participating in it. Instead of looking down on people whose work is not as valuable as yours (because that's what honestly your "feeling icky about it" seems to boil down to), look at these interactions as opportunities for mutual, voluntary help. If you think their work is worth more than what they are getting, tell them so and back it up with your generosity. There is no point in "feeling bad" about it.