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Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by Loic on Monday May 19, 2025 @08:27AM (#44029097)
We are all Miele at home and for the next renewal, I will go to Bosch/Siemens. Too many small failures here and there (less than 8 year old). I was sincerely surprised because 20 years ago, Miele was the gold standard (at least in Germany). So, I agree with you.
Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by alexey-salmin on Monday May 19, 2025 @08:31AM (#44029140)
Well see: by the time I learned about Miele it's already too late!
Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by Workaccount2 on Monday May 19, 2025 @09:48AM (#44029886)
I know that German brands get a lot of cred, but I have never really experienced it much. And thinking about it, it kind of makes sense:

Who in first world developed countries, that is smart, competent, and capable, wants to take a ho-hum salary to develop home appliances? From an economic and financial perspective, it doesn't make sense for Germany to pump out high quality innovative home wares. The brightest German minds aren't working on stove tops, nor should they be.

It makes way more sense for emerging economies to dominate in the space, and unsurprisingly China now seems to be the global hub of mid-tech manufacturing, with lots of innovation in this space.

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by Loic on Tuesday May 20, 2025 @03:24PM (#44044968)
It makes sense, in Europe, German people are the ones spending the most in kitchen hardware (both appliances and furniture). So naturally, companies have been serving this market. Anecdote, high end Miele appliances have been running Linux for a couple of years.
Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by DSingularity on Monday May 19, 2025 @09:29AM (#44029664)
What about gaggenau?
Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by Der_Einzige on Monday May 19, 2025 @11:59AM (#44031227)
I compared Miele, Thermador, gaggenau, and regular Bosch 800 fridge side-by-side in a appliance store.

There is nothing on those higher end versions which make them worth anything close to the markup on the Bosch 800 fridge.

If I'm going to spend almost 2X, you better give me at a minimum fully metal and glass construction (almost no plastic). I get slightly more metal and slightly (very slightly) stronger plastics. That's about it.

What a scam. Don't buy Miele or gaggenau. If you want a truly high end fridge, you'll need a built in made by someone like subzero or its competitors.

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by imp0cat on Tuesday May 20, 2025 @02:03AM (#44038256)
I really feel that Bosch/Siemens are the best deals right now and there are only minor differences between them (a Simenes freezer might have an extra light fixture whereas the Bosch one does not).
Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by DSingularity on Thursday May 22, 2025 @03:33PM (#44065873)
Thanks! The thing that made me consider them were some deep dives into their ovens and counter top cooking surfaces. Those actually do seem superior. Have you compared them?
Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by riehwvfbk on Monday May 19, 2025 @10:03AM (#44030060)
It's the Bentley Bentayga of apppliances: same VW bones, fancy badge. Gaggenau is Bosch, exact same replacement parts fit.
Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by m463 on Monday May 19, 2025 @05:53PM (#44035307)
wasn't there an article posted recently where the bosch dishwasher needed the phone app for common funcitons?
Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by Loic on Tuesday May 20, 2025 @02:22AM (#44038365)
Yes, but they keep a series without these "cloud" (dis)functions.